State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

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Re: State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

Postby General Apathy » Tue Sep 05, 2017 7:31 pm

Adam Smiths left Nut wrote:It's funny how much conservatives claim to care about Sanders. If he'd been the front runner they'd be howling about MUH MARXISMS


I haven't heard any conservatives who care about Sanders. The only point I heard from conservatives was that he touched a portion of the DEM base that has been alienated by the Clinton Crime Family which threatens "mainstream" DEMs, and, the DEM party was willing to break the rules to stab him in the back to advance HRC, pointing out that the system was rigged against him.

If he had been the opposing candidate, his record and positions would certainly have been fodder. He's in many ways an old style Marxist.

But care about him? Not one bit.
...all this from someone who is neither apathetic nor a general
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Re: State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

Postby Guest » Tue Sep 05, 2017 7:32 pm

Again, remember - don't respond to the twat. Ignore him.
He'll come out with stuff purposefully to provoke you. Be strong and just ignore him.
That's the only way you'll get to him. He thrives on attention, so don't give him any. It winds him up something rotten.
No matter what he says (he's just doing it to make you say something), just ignore him.
It really aggravates him. He gets more desperate and starts getting abusive. You can tell it's working.
Ignore him.
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Re: State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

Postby kyotebue2 » Tue Sep 05, 2017 7:39 pm

The cruelty is just getting to me.
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Re: State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

Postby General Apathy » Tue Sep 05, 2017 7:42 pm

What cruelty would that be?
...all this from someone who is neither apathetic nor a general
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Re: State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

Postby Winnie » Tue Sep 05, 2017 7:47 pm

Adam Smiths left Nut wrote:It's funny how much conservatives claim to care about Sanders. If he'd been the front runner they'd be howling about MUH MARXISMS

I don't.
I just like watching the "progressives" devour their own.
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Re: State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

Postby Adam Smiths Left Nut » Tue Sep 05, 2017 8:55 pm

Winnie wrote:
Adam Smiths left Nut wrote:It's funny how much conservatives claim to care about Sanders. If he'd been the front runner they'd be howling about MUH MARXISMS

I don't.
I just like watching the "progressives" devour their own.


It really doesn't matter.

Trump will be re-elected, then Americans will swing the other way as we always do and elect someone from the other party for 2 terms.

Then the bloggers and pundits will talk about how "the landscape has changed' and what it means... all the way until the next election.
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Re: State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

Postby General Apathy » Tue Sep 05, 2017 10:00 pm

It really doesn't matter.


I have to disagree. The pendulum does indeed swing back and forth. The difference is that "ground truth" changes in the process, and where the limits of each side were previously will be altered based on who is in and what they do. There is also the damage that anyone in the office will do regardless of what they do that will impact the mechanisms of the pendulum as well as the burning bags of crap they leave behind for the one who follows.

Consider:

BHO should have lost his second term and if certain information had not been sat on, if the press handled things different, etc. etc. So for the sake of argument, what would the US and the world look like had BHO lost. I'd offer that while many of the same problems would still exist, their magnitude would not. Clearly the role and position of the US would be different with only one tour by President Kow Tow and his "Blame America First" (while taking selfies) approach. There would be no Iran nuclear deal. The IRS would not have had the ability to target conservative groups with impunity. Folks in other nations might be more inclined to work with the US. Syria would have been handled differently. The whole migrant issue would have developed differently, and there might have even been an international effort to build safe zones in country. With Mitt's position on healthcare, he might well have been the driving force behind making changes to "improve" Obamacare.
Our virtually open southern border would not have existed, the illegal immigration flood would not have been as great. There wouldn't be the same clamor for the wall as there is. The FBI investigation of HRC would have been different. She might well have been indicted by a grand jury by the time the nomination process came along. Bernie might well have been the candidate. Mitt would be running for re-election and the groundswell of "drain the swamp voters" would never have been there to put Trump into office. Following Mitt's second term, the pendulum would swing back, but not from as far away as it did from BHO, nor would there be the same level of polarization we have now.

Not claiming everything would be hunky dorey at all. But how far the pendulum swings and whether it swings far enough to either reset the arc of travel, cause a greater reaction or not, and what other factors that might have come into play that weighs the pendulum down making it harder to swing, or damages the mechanisms by which it swings would all be different.
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Re: State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

Postby Macunaima » Tue Sep 05, 2017 10:19 pm

General Apathy wrote:No witch hunts of minorities going on Mac. Like I said before, if DACA were to completely disappear - unlikely given Congressional involvement - but if it did, it would be like before. Folks living and working here illegally with no one looking for them, and no one really interested unless they broke the law.


Dumbfuck, there's one brewing in the American military right now. The whole "hunt illegal/irregular immigrants down and deport them" is another. 60% of the American prison population is black, versus 10% of the general population and your Commander in Chief just gave a rousing speach to cops as to how they need to up their already sky-high levels of force. That's a third, by any stadard.

And you are talking straight out your asshole if you think "no one's looking for illegal immigrants unless they broke the law". That statement in and of itself is a measure of what a clueless, bigoted pig you are.
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Re: State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

Postby Macunaima » Tue Sep 05, 2017 10:20 pm

Of course, Pointsball is doing just fine in 'Mericuh.

http://www.cracked.com/video_20592_if-p ... onest.html
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Re: State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

Postby Macunaima » Tue Sep 05, 2017 10:22 pm

General Apathy wrote:
You deserve a three word answer: fuck you, pig.


Well, I can't begin to count the number of words in what you deserve.


Yeah, we know you like hearing yourself talk.

Piss off, porker.
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