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Macunaima wrote:Let's put it a different way: there is only one sort of person who can honestly and intelligently say that Hilary and Trump are the same thing and that's a person who...

1) Doesn't need to feel at risk for their life or freedom when police approach them (and who probably, naively, believes that police represent justice);

2) Will never need to worry about getting a legal and safe abortion or having affordable access to birth control;

3) Has no close non-American family members (or close friends for that matter);

4) Certainly has no trans friends or relatives;

5) Has few if any LGB friends or relatives;

6) Has no real worries about where their health care is coming from.

7) Has few if any black friends or relatives.

This kind of person is really the only type who can vote for a Trump with a clear conscinece because the REAL differences between Trump and Hilary are academic or non-extant to them.

I test out negative on five of those seven characteristics, so there is no way in hell I'd see the differences between Trump and Hillary as a wash. But if all you are concerned about is the return of privileges lost from some half-imagined American Golden Age, then yeah, I can see why you'd think there's no difference.

Guest wrote:Again, remember - don't respond to the twat. Ignore him.
He'll come out with stuff purposefully to provoke you. Be strong and just ignore him.
That's the only way you'll get to him. He thrives on attention, so don't give him any. It winds him up something rotten.
No matter what he says (he's just doing it to make you say something), just ignore him.
It really aggravates him. He gets more desperate and starts getting abusive. You can tell it's working.
Ignore him.

General Apathy wrote:Mac, I reject your assertion and purity test.

The issue was never that there was no difference.

rebelyell2006 wrote:I tested negative on just (1) and (6), but only because I have few friends and relatives. Extend it to associates and coworkers, and that changes things completely. And yet, everybody knows who I voted for.

Winnie wrote:

Macunaima wrote:Let's put it a different way: there is only one sort of person who can honestly and intelligently say that Hilary and Trump are the same thing and that's a person who...

1) Doesn't need to feel at risk for their life or freedom when police approach them (and who probably, naively, believes that police represent justice);

2) Will never need to worry about getting a legal and safe abortion or having affordable access to birth control;

3) Has no close non-American family members (or close friends for that matter);

4) Certainly has no trans friends or relatives;

5) Has few if any LGB friends or relatives;

6) Has no real worries about where their health care is coming from.

7) Has few if any black friends or relatives.

This kind of person is really the only type who can vote for a Trump with a clear conscinece because the REAL differences between Trump and Hilary are academic or non-extant to them.

I test out negative on five of those seven characteristics, so there is no way in hell I'd see the differences between Trump and Hillary as a wash. But if all you are concerned about is the return of privileges lost from some half-imagined American Golden Age, then yeah, I can see why you'd think there's no difference.

Clears throat. Gargles hot tea and lemon and honey.
Ahem.
"BULLSHIT!"
There. That felt good.
But you have to excuse me for now. I'm drinking beer and listening to Doug Kershaw singing "Diggy Liggy Lo" on YouTube. Then on to Jo-El Sonnier, and "Evangeline Special!"
Mac, you only deserve a one word answer.