State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

[Voice From Limbo]

And JJ is right, you grammatically ignorant cunt.
Should HAVE.
My Dear God. Who is teaching the young progressive twats their grammar these days????

It is my understanding that the correct form,in any sentence containing the word "bitch",is "shudda".

[Macunaima]

Yes, antifa is the moral equivalent of neo-Nazis

Last weekend in Berkeley, Calif., a group of neo-communist antifa — “anti-fascist” — thugs attacked peaceful protesters at a “No to Marxism in America” rally, wielding sticks and pepper spray, and beating people with homemade shields that read (I kid you not) “No Hate.” The Post reports how one peaceful protester “was attacked by five black-clad antifa members, each windmilling kicks and punches into a man desperately trying to protect himself.” Members of the Berkeley College Republicans were then stalked by antifa goons who followed them to a gas station and demanded they “get the [expletive] out” of their car, warning, “We are real hungry for supremacists and there is more of us.”

The organizer of the anti-Marxism protest is not a white supremacist. Amber Cummings is a self-described “transsexual female who embraces diversity” and had announced on Facebook that “any racist groups like the KKK [and] Neo Nazis . . . are not welcome.” The protest was needed, Cummings said, because “Berkeley is a ground zero for the Marxist Movement.”

As if to prove Cummings’s point, the antifa movement responded with jackboots and clubs — because their definition of “fascist” includes not just neo-Nazis but also anyone who opposes their totalitarian worldview.

And let’s be clear: Totalitarian is precisely what they are. Mark Bray, a Dartmouth lecturer who has defended antifa’s violent tactics, recently explained in The Post, “Its adherents are predominantly communists, socialists and anarchists” who believe that physical violence “is both ethically justifiable and strategically effective.” In other words, they are no different from neo-Nazis. Neo-Nazis are the violent advocates of a murderous ideology that killed 25 million people last century. Antifa members are the violent advocates of a murderous ideology that, according to “The Black Book of Communism,” killed between 85 million and 100 million people last century. Both practice violence and preach hate. They are morally indistinguishable. There is no difference between those who beat innocent people in the name of the ideology that gave us Hitler and Himmler and those who beat innocent people in the name of the ideology that gave us Stalin and Dzerzhinsky.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/yes-antifa-is-the-moral-equivalent-of-neo-nazis/2017/08/30/9a13b2f6-8d00-11e7-91d5-ab4e4bb76a3a_story.html?tid=sm_tw&utm_term=.80bc75d683ef

More at the link.

Lovely false equivalency there, Grandpa. Beginning with the fact that they count only one relatively small section of the right wing, nationalist, racist mindset and compare it to the entirety of state capitalism AND THEN presume that the ideology of said state capitalists is thr same as that of the folks in the antifa.

To begin with, anyone with half a notion of the history of western ideology wouldn't toss anarchists and communists in the same box and CERTAINLY would toss Stalinists and anarchists in the same box.

But you want to talk about the right's REAL bounty count? We need to bring in colonialism, in a big way. We need to talk about the racist nationalism of the Turks vis-a-vis the Kurds. We need to remember the. Ritish Empire's engineered famines in India and the whole race to control Africa, including the body count in the Belgian Congo. All of these spectacular hecatombes were created by the same scientific racists, "white folks uber alles", nationalist ideology of the right that took on a more spectacular (to western eyes) form in the Holocaust.

We should be looking at the whole kit 'n kkkaboodle of lives lost to nationalist racists, not just Hitler and his merry band.

By the way, World War II as a whole cost 83 million human lives and all of those deaths can ultimately be laid at the door of right-wing racist nationalism. So unless yer man at the post is some sort of crypto nazi sympathizer, 25 million is quite the low count. Methinks he ignored the deaths that can be directly laid at Italy and Japan's doors entirely, just for starters.

[Macunaima]

But here's another point: open Marx and point to me, exactly, where he says "Hey, we need to kill millions".

Because I can damn well show you where Hitler says this. Mass death is a constituitive part of the nationalist, racist right's agenda. For all their incompetence and power-grubbing of self-proclaimed Marxists, it has never been a central point of Marxism.

[Macunaima]

And JJ is right, you grammatically ignorant cunt.
Should HAVE.
My Dear God. Who is teaching the young progressive twats their grammar these days????

You, by the number of errors you make, Johnboy. And fuck, I make errors, too. But, then again, I don't set myself up as the Grammar Police, do I?

[Winnie]

And JJ is right, you grammatically ignorant cunt.
Should HAVE.
My Dear God. Who is teaching the young progressive twats their grammar these days????

It is my understanding that the correct form,in any sentence containing the word "bitch",is "shudda".

Well, yeah.

[kyotebue2]

LOL.

[McKinstry]

Polls said HRC was a virtual lock, and the question wasn't whether she'd win, just by how big of a landslide.

I believe both the LA Times and ABC's polls showed the election within the margin of error and Trump did lose the popular vote by the largest absolute total ever by a successful candidate.

[kyotebue2]

That is why I used Fox News. They can check it out and see I'm right.

[Il Segaiolo Pedantesco]

The Victory of the Counter-Revolution in Vienna by Karl Marx

The purposeless massacres perpetrated since the June and October events, the tedious offering of sacrifices since February and March, the very cannibalism of the counterrevolution will convince the nations that there is only one way in which the murderous death agonies of the old society and the bloody birth throes of the new society can be shortened, simplified and concentrated, and that way is revolutionary terror.

Marxism is a revolutionary doctrine. It expressly declares that the design of the prime mover will be accomplished by civil war… The liquidation of all dissenters will establish the undisputed supremacy of the absolute eternal values. This formula for the solution of conflicts of value judgments is certainly not new. It is a device known and practiced from time immemorial. Kill the infidels! Burn the heretics! What is new is merely the fact that today it is sold to the public under the label of ‘science.’

– Ludwig von Mises, ‘Theory and History’, p. 51

[Moon Fauna]

The Victory of the Counter-Revolution in Vienna by Karl Marx

The purposeless massacres perpetrated since the June and October events, the tedious offering of sacrifices since February and March, the very cannibalism of the counterrevolution will convince the nations that there is only one way in which the murderous death agonies of the old society and the bloody birth throes of the new society can be shortened, simplified and concentrated, and that way is revolutionary terror.

Marxism is a revolutionary doctrine. It expressly declares that the design of the prime mover will be accomplished by civil war… The liquidation of all dissenters will establish the undisputed supremacy of the absolute eternal values. This formula for the solution of conflicts of value judgments is certainly not new. It is a device known and practiced from time immemorial. Kill the infidels! Burn the heretics! What is new is merely the fact that today it is sold to the public under the label of ‘science.’

– Ludwig von Mises, ‘Theory and History’, p. 51

Nice quotes Condi but like Apathy and Winnie you are wasting your time on Mac. If he hasn't worked out that Marxism is a murderous ideology by now, then there is no hope for the evil cunt. Like a lot of academics he is an apologist for mass murder if it is done for a cause he aspouses. It doesn't matter that it won't work in practice, that it never has worked in practice, that it can't work in practice for very obvious reasons (very obvious if you're not Mac that is), and even if it did work nobody that supported it in the first place would want to live in the dire world that they helped create after they had actually lived in it.

As a society we need to call out these scumbags in academia who think it's ok to apologise for historical mass murder, and to apologise for political violence on our streets today. Antifa are left-wing fascists pure and simple. Mac is just upset because significant numbers of people know this now, and are calling out these Antifa creeps and the cowardly professors, politicians and mass media outlets that support them.