State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

[Adam Smiths Left Nut]

[quote="Winnie"
No, you're right. He can't lay claim to Afghanistan. That's been claimed by the entire administrations of two, count them two previous presidents. [/quote]

Is there a bet on how many consecutive presidencies will have to contend with Afghanistan?


In interesting news, tax proposals soon.

My predictions:

Corporate tax cut in half (which I support though I have a sneaking suspicion that they will leave enough loop holes to effectively make it zero, either way though, it's a good thing.)

Working class tax relief will look something like a hundred bucks a year. Enough to technically be a tax cut but basically an insult.

The talk about childcare and maternity leave is dead on arrival, if it even gets included. Stupid.

Rich people will make bank as always. Not needed.

MASSIVE DEFICIT SPENDING because no matter if you are "fiscally conservative" or "tax and spend liberal", the bill never goes down.

[Adam Smiths Left Nut]

Also, maybe now you can shut up about Pelosi for a second?

http://www.democraticleader.gov/newsroom/82917/

[Winnie]

[quote="Winnie"
No, you're right. He can't lay claim to Afghanistan. That's been claimed by the entire administrations of two, count them two previous presidents.

Is there a bet on how many consecutive presidencies will have to contend with Afghanistan?


In interesting news, tax proposals soon.

My predictions:

Corporate tax cut in half (which I support though I have a sneaking suspicion that they will leave enough loop holes to effectively make it zero, either way though, it's a good thing.)

Working class tax relief will look something like a hundred bucks a year. Enough to technically be a tax cut but basically an insult.

The talk about childcare and maternity leave is dead on arrival, if it even gets included. Stupid.

Rich people will make bank as always. Not needed.

MASSIVE DEFICIT SPENDING because no matter if you are "fiscally conservative" or "tax and spend liberal", the bill never goes down.[/quote]
The Tom Hanks administration, the Chelsea Clinton administration, the Vincenzo Bush administration, the Malaia Obama administration...
All will be stuck in Afghanistan.
The British had it right there. Go in, kill a bunch of misbehaving Wogs and then leave with a warning.
No need to build LGBTX schools, no need to wean police chiefs off pederasty, etc. No New Hampshire town hall democracy.
Maybe buy the entire opium crop every year if you see the need to make a profit cynically.

[kyotebue2]

Tax cuts for the 1% fuck everyone else.
Iran would be more of the same mire in the middle east.
N. Korea would be Y U G E ratings and more destructive.

[General Apathy]

LIVE: President Donald Trump MAJOR SPEECH in Springfield, Missouri 8/30/2017 TRUMP TAX REFORM SPEECH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpjrTSqm3mg

[Macunaima]

So, in your universe, videotape gives a denser, more accurate experience than actually seeing events with one's own eyes?

In my universe, multiple different independent accounts of eye witnesses speaking to different press organizations PLUS videotape PLUS photography PLUS police arrests do indeed give a more accurate depiction of the experience than one asshole's bullshit claims of what they saw.

No wonder you voted for Trump.

Except you have that declarative completely wrong, just like so much of the other Brazilian Sewer Shit you shovel.

Come, now, Granpa: we all know you voted for the Cheeto. Just like we all know why you're stinking up this thread with alt-right crap. There's been a fascist move on gaming in general since gamer gate and you're just doing your part for The Cause.

[General Apathy]

Come, now, Granpa: we all know you voted for the Cheeto. Just like we all know why you're stinking up this thread with alt-right crap. There's been a fascist move on gaming in general since gamer gate and you're just doing your part for The Cause.

FTFU. What you all "KNOW" and what is true aren't the same thing. What I'm posting is hardly alt-right.

I see your "one man with rose colored glasses" argument vs actual evidence isn't an issue for you anymore. You likely "KNEW" that fairy tale was more real than all the evidence to the contrary from many independent sources. Much like you "KNOW" so many other things.

Go back to your sewer.

[General Apathy]

Tax cuts for the 1% fuck everyone else.

Not even close. Don't know if he can get it done but he pitched a tax reform that is based on four major points. I'll not bore you with the examples and data but essentially:
1. Make the tax code simple, fair, and easy to understand - which includes elimination of loopholes for the wealthy and special interests

2. It must be a competitive tax code that will create more jobs and increase wages.

3. It must provide real tax relief for the middle class - "The Forgotten" - including helping parents be able to afford child care and raise a family

4. It must bring back US dollars from overseas.

He challenged both congress in general and the DEMs in particular to get onboard and do this - and reminded them that elections are coming up and the voters will remember what they did or didn't do.

Not that many if any at all will take the time, but the speech is on You Tube and before we start hearing about the typical Brazilian Sewer Sludge and Kyote-shit from folks who don't know what they are talking about, you ought to find a transcript or listen to what he actually said.

Prior to the speech, an opinion piece in the USA Today is linked below. It is by James Dimon is an American business executive. He is chairman, president and chief executive officer of JPMorgan Chase, largest of the Big Four American banks, and previously served on the Board of Directors of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York:
"America needs tax reform to spur competition and growth "
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/08/30/spur-lagging-competition-industry-growth-america-needs-tackle-tax-reform/612713001/

[Guest]

So, in your universe, videotape gives a denser, more accurate experience than actually seeing events with one's own eyes?

In my universe, multiple different independent accounts of eye witnesses speaking to different press organizations PLUS videotape PLUS photography PLUS police arrests do indeed give a more accurate depiction of the experience than one asshole's bullshit claims of what they saw.

[quote]

Oh you can fuck right off with that you shit touching fuck monkey!!!

Remember what you reckoned about CNN's live cross? And your corroboration? Some dumb fuck bystander with no experience in what they are witnessing and MARK FUCKING DICE!!!

Fucking idiot, fucking useful idiot.

Want to address that thing that is being constantly re-posted about you not being able to check your sources?
Think I will have to go and dredge it up....

[General Apathy]

You caught me! CBS News, The Washington Post, Los Angeles Times, SF Gate, Newsweek, The New Yorker, Slate and others are all in cahoots with me to spread disinformation.

You are just too clever - unlike Nancy Pelosi who spoke out about the same violence my cabal reported.

Clearly one supposed eye witness, unvetted, unknown and provided by Mac (fer gawd sakes) is CLEARLY provided in a totally objective, completely honest manner with no agenda whatsoever is MUCH more reliable than my evil conspiracy of print, internet and TV news - not to mention members of congress!

How could I have even thought of questioning that version?

Want to address that thing that is being constantly re-posted about you not being able to check your sources?

Tell you what...rather than dealing in the past and since this is the topic at hand, why don't you check my sources and Mac's source on the ANTIFA violence in SF about which I posted?