State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

[Ditto Tango 2 3]

Guest wrote: "Blah blah blah blah blah It really aggravates him. blah blah blah..."

No, but you certainly do.

Hey, you've translated his ramblings into your own language!

[Bronshtein]

Again, remember - don't respond to the twat. Ignore him.
He'll come out with stuff purposefully to provoke you. Be strong and just ignore him.
That's the only way you'll get to him. He thrives on attention, so don't give him any. It winds him up something rotten.
No matter what he says (he's just doing it to make you say something), just ignore him.
It really aggravates him. He gets more desperate and starts getting abusive. You can tell it's working.
Ignore him.

Wanker

[General Apathy]

Guest wrote: "Blah blah blah blah blah It really aggravates him. blah blah blah..."

No, but you certainly do.

Hey, you've translated his ramblings into your own language!

Yeah, I know that's how I sound to many here.

[Macunaima]

No, you actually sound like a r/eddit forum, morphed into the body of a sixty year old man. Sort of Julius Streicher for the Gamer Gate/Pepe the Frog crowd.

[What]

No, you actually sound like a r/eddit forum, morphed into the body of a sixty year old man.

"Akshually there's only two genders!"

[Macunaima]

No, you actually sound like a r/eddit forum, morphed into the body of a sixty year old man.

"Akshually there's only two genders!"

Yeah. They are cute, aren't they?

[General Apathy]

Then clean the shit out of your ears Mac.

I'm not anti-Semetic, pro alt-right or a Nazi. Aside from that...

[General Apathy]

KTVU anchor: 'I experienced hate firsthand' at Berkeley rally

http://www.sfgate.com/opinion/article/KTVU-anchor-I-experienced-hate-first-hand-at-12071055.php

I experienced hate firsthand today.
It came from these people dressed in all black at a protest in Berkeley. Ironically they were all chanting about no hate.
Some had shields and gloves. Some had helmets. Some had gas masks. I was watching them and taking it all in. I came there on my own time. Because I wanted to see things first hand. I was dressed in shorts and a tank top. At one point I took out my phone to take a picture.

And that's when it all happened.
(And just to be clear they were playing for the cameras in front but I was toward the back. And since there were already so many people taking their picture I didn't think it would be an issue.)
I took two pictures and afterward they started screaming at me. I thought for sure they were going to attack. I was just waiting for it.

I wasn't scared. But I stayed calm even though I thought this may not end well for me.
Here's how the conversation went.

Them: Hey! No pictures or we'll take your phone!
(At that point I'd already taken these shots)
Me (In calm voice): You're on public property and I can take a picture if I want to.
Them: Oh, so you're a big man with a camera?
Me: No I just wanted to take a picture and talk with you.
Them (rushing toward me): We outnumber you and we will take your camera!
Me: You're not going to take my camera and you're not going to tell me what to do. Why can't we just have a respectful conversation?
(I then touched one of them on her hand to say it's okay I just want to talk.)
Them: Don't touch me!
Me: I'm not trying to do anything. I just want to try to understand and have a respectful conversation.
Them: We'll block your shot!
Me: That's fine. All I wanted to do was have a conversation.
Them: Now is not the time.
(In fairness, he was the one person who was respectful.)
Then as I started to walk away a woman started screaming at me saying: We're not interested in talking to you! We're not interested in talking to you!
I walked away stunned. I grew up in Berkeley. I marched in anti-war protests during the sixties. It's one thing to read about hate. It's another thing to be right next to it. In my opinion, these people dressed in black are just as hateful and intolerant as the people they are protesting against.
Afterward I was talking to several other protesters (not dressed in black). One of them actually stood up for me as the people dressed in black were threatening me. I was touched. They were just as disappointed as I was. They said that the people dressed in black represent a small minority and that they "hijack" the protests.
And I agree.
Most of the people out there in Berkeley were non-violent. They were there for the cause. They just wanted to come out and stand up against hate. I totally support them.
But I do not support extremists, whether they are on the right or the left.
Hate is hate.
And I experienced it firsthand today.
It was sad to see

Even newspeople and legitimate LW counter protesters have the same opinion of ANTIFA as do I.

Lots of leftist violence apologists here with clouded vision and bad judgment.

[Macunaima]

Then clean the shit out of your ears Mac.

I'm not anti-Semetic, pro alt-right or a Nazi. Aside from that...

Sure, you're pro alt-right, Granpa! You have reported pretty much every meme they've floated over the last year or so. And as for being a pro-Nazi, you think they are the equivalent of the people protesting them. In other words, you do everything possible to make them seem like they aren't a threat and are just reasonable citizens, wanting to have their say.

When it comes to anti-semitism, I will leave that to Bronie. But given your track record on pretty much everything else, I certainly wouldn't put it past you.

[rebelyell2006]

Why can't we just have a respectful conversation?