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Re: State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 5:05 am
by rebelyell2006
Grampa Apathy and Trump are so fetch, with their attacks on LGBT community and defense of racist assholes like Arpaio!

Re: State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 5:22 am
by Australian Dawn
General Apathy wrote:Nazis not feeling safe? Maybe this is one reason?
Oh, but their only purpose is to defend counter protesters!
https://revolutionaryabolition.org/poli ... framework/

The link didn't work for me but it sounds like an ACW reenactors club with delusions of grandeur.
Burn down the American plantation is a catchy slogan though.
I don't see why you'd get worked up about it from what you wrote, and if it has the white supremacists quaking in their pointy white hoods all the better.

Re: State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 5:45 am
by rebelyell2006
As an ACW reenactor, I have to say that Grampa Apathy and his links are fucked. But maybe that is because I am a loyal American, and not a traitorous secesh in gray.

Re: State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 6:11 am
by kyotebue2
I think it would be so funny if counter-protesters showed up in Union uniforms and started singing The Battle Hymn of the Republic and drowned out the KKK White Supremacists Nazis.

Re: State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 6:45 am
by Winnie
kyotebue2 wrote:I think it would be so funny if counter-protesters showed up in Union uniforms and started singing The Battle Hymn of the Republic and drowned out the KKK White Supremacists Nazis.

The Mormon Tabernacle Choir have the very best SATB arrangement of the Battle Hymn of the Republic.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QSiVjlknuSw
I sang tenor in high school and college glee clubs.

Re: State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 2:53 pm
by Il Segaiolo Pedantesco
ESPN Fired Announcer Robert Lee Because His Name Sounds Like the Confederate General’s?
There is no dispute that Robert Lee was moved off covering a University of Virginia football game for ESPN because of the coincidence of his name. However, ESPN’s intent appeared to have been a desire to avoid prompting public ridicule rather than public offense — a move that ended up subjecting the network (for different reasons) to the very mocking they had hoped to head off.

Re: State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 3:09 pm
by Macunaima
General Apathy wrote:Nazis not feeling safe? Maybe this is one reason?
Oh, but their only purpose is to defend counter protesters!
https://revolutionaryabolition.org/poli ... framework/
What we find the need to articulate here is that the political situation in the US–while increasingly violent and volatile, and rapidly developing–is a clear continuation of the policies that have been enacted since the Civil War. Essentially, the Civil War never ended. The struggle against chattel slavery, from neighborhoods demolished by the ‘war on drugs’ to the prison-industrial apparatus, and resistance to US expansion across the continent is the same war being waged today in another form. The primary question, then, is how do we organize to abolish slavery, and stop the expansion of the slave-project?

The State, in complicity with white supremacist organizations, has done everything in its capacity to ensure that the relations of slavery were entrenched in US political, social, and economic life. In doing so it ensured that its slave populace, and other targeted populations, would remain in bondage, trapped in its carceral apparatuses. In reaction to the rise of the Black Lives Matter movement and the rise of a black man to the height of its political machine, coupled with the decline of US imperial power in the 21st Century, hegemonic power birthed the only logical solution to preserving its dominant grip: a fascist movement to take control of the State. The ascendance of Donald Trump to power is the natural outcome of the white supremacist state.

It is in this context that a revolutionary political movement must reawaken. We cannot just rely on the movements of the recent past. We must look at the beginning of the struggle against slavery to properly orient our actions, while also adapting models from the successful revolutionary projects of our own time.

History will judge the decisions we make today, and the targets of our ire have never more clear. Will we standby and watch as the State continues to confine millions in its detention camps? Will we allow another Mike Brown or Akai Gurley to be murdered in cold blood? Will we permit the ethnic cleansing of thirteen million people through industrial-scale deportation? As Mumia Abu Jamal exclaimed about Tamir Rice, “When a child dies, adults don’t deserve to breathe their stolen air.” Will we deserve to breathe while knowing that millions of people are still enslaved in our midst? Our historical mission is clear. We must burn down the American plantation once and for all.


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Oh, and this "we're only defenders" is also "and we really aren't alt-left because there isn't one"


OK, Gramps. They are calling for a revolution, which is pretty much something everyone does these days. A revolution can mean many things. But tell me: where in that screed are they advocating a holocaust like your buddies on the alt-right?

Frankly, I think the American plantation deserves to be burned down. That's an entirely different thing from burning down America, as Ulysses S. Grant so conclusively proved.

When the likes of Chris Cantwell call for an ethnic state, they are proposing the destruction of America.

But why am I not surprised that you equate the abolition of slavery with the destruction of America?

Re: State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 3:18 pm
by JJCH nli
What you need to needle revanchist, redneck peckerwoods is something more to the point.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jrYlR6RwRCw

Re: State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 3:26 pm
by Winnie
Condottiero wrote:ESPN Fired Announcer Robert Lee Because His Name Sounds Like the Confederate General’s?
There is no dispute that Robert Lee was moved off covering a University of Virginia football game for ESPN because of the coincidence of his name. However, ESPN’s intent appeared to have been a desire to avoid prompting public ridicule rather than public offense — a move that ended up subjecting the network (for different reasons) to the very mocking they had hoped to head off.

Funny thing is that their oldest ranking announcer is Bob Ley (pronounced the same) who anchors the most touchy-feely Kumbaya show on ESPN, Behind the Lines. Or is it Inside the lines? Outside?
Usually it's about courageous blind amputees of color being hauled up Mt Everest and their triumphs.

Re: State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 4:02 pm
by Voice From Limbo
They seem to have found a replacement:
https://youtu.be/a6HWVCFBTKs