State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

[kyotebue2]

Nazis ruin everything.

[Winnie]

[code][/code]

Social Security is a Ponzi scheme...

Okay, that shows that you are either:

a) a moron, so it would be cruel to debate with you...'cuz, you know, that whole "picking on the crippled kid" thing.

or

b) deliberately feigning ignorance in the hopes that you can get away with being a dick.



Social Security is (as opposed to a Ponzi scheme) a program by which we, as a society, agree to contribute to the well-being/welfare of our elders. One doesn't 'pay into' the system in the sense of creating an account upon which a future withdrawal may be made. One contributes to that well-being/welfare because it's the right thing to do.

It's theft, pure and simple.

If you truly believe that (yahweh help you if you do) then you need to provide an example of wealth held by an individual that has been earned independent of the aid of the society/culture that that individual inhabits.

Everything everyone has is dependent on another. To claim 'mine and mine alone!' is to deny one's existence.

Since I see that we are calling each other names, let me get that out of the way right now and call you a dipstick Commie cunt. Feel better now? I'm sure I do.
"We as a society agree to...." We do?
And of course I put into it. Why else is it a separate line item on my check stub?
Why do I get yearly statements telling me what I will "earn", based on what I have put in?
Why doesn't everyone at age 70 receive exactly the same amount, instead of a sum based on what they put in?

Look. Let's just eliminate the fiction of pretending that this is separate from regular government spending. Congress did that years ago when they decided that the so-called Trust Fund was just a piggy bank and they were the hammer.
It's the hypocrisy of it all that annoys me.
By all means, support widows and orphans and lesbian guerilla street theatre. Just don't mock logic by trashing the "Trust Fund".

And please explain to me why William F Buckley is not entitled to collect. It is an entitlement after all, and he put into it. It was originally sold as a pension.

[Winnie]

Nazis ruin everything.

Jeez. Do you check under your bed every night for Nazis?
Are they the reason you have bad teeth and your shit smells bad?

[kyotebue2]

Damn...did you read the thread?

[Stantharg]

A very good question. I think he was still suffering from a nasty attack of the defence of the welfare state.

[gweirda]

Since I see that we are calling each other names, let me get that out of the way right now and call you a dipstick Commie cunt. Feel better now? I'm sure I do.

I thought that was what the internet was for: treating others with impersonal rudeness...did I get that wrong? lessee...I have a handbook somewhere...

ha ha...I'm really just a shit hiding behind plausible deniability. sorry, Gum
No, really: sorry.

And of course I put into it. Why else is it a separate line item on my check stub?
Why do I get yearly statements telling me what I will "earn", based on what I have put in?
Why doesn't everyone at age 70 receive exactly the same amount, instead of a sum based on what they put in?

I guess I always assumed it was because some people couldn't handle the truth about caring for others, so it was hidden in a cloud of 'earnings based on contributions' to make them feel like they weren't getting screwed (while they screwed others).

...please explain to me why William F Buckley is not entitled to collect. It is an entitlement after all, and he put into it. It was originally sold as a pension.

He can certainly collect - because you and I are paying him, not because of what he put into the system, but because he's alive (is he?). As to the 'pension' thing - I honestly have no idea, but wouldn't be surprised to learn that it matches my "salespitch" idea above (ie: these people can't understand what's good for them, so let's just tell them they'll be gazillionaires to get them on board - cynically manipulative? sure. I'm okay with that -- after all, it's just the internet, right?).

[A Voice From Limbo]

"Is he?"
No:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_F._Buckley_Jr.

[A Voice From Limbo]

Genteel,semi-aristocratic,conservative intellectual. And sometime pedant.

In a word,Winnie!

[Winnie]

Genteel,semi-aristocratic,conservative intellectual. And sometime pedant.

In a word,Winnie!

Aw, shucks.

[Moon Rex]

I've never heard a Leftists worldview that didn't in the end boil down to "I worship the State like a little cunt bitch. I'm a slave, I enjoy being a slave, and because I subconsciously loath myself I want everyone else to be as enslaved as me. Now, here are a bunch of lies that I don't even believe myself about how I give the government money because it's my choice and not because it would smash my body into pieces if I didn't..".

Beta male cunts.