Frothers Unite! UK

Posted: **Wed Aug 16, 2017 5:36 pm**

Condottiero wrote:
rebelyell2006 wrote:Plus, having overt white supremacists around creates a hostile work environment.

Regardless of views, anyone sporting overt symbols of affiliation and dumb enough not to cover up, isn't the type to do well in any social situation, beyond tribal association. You know I wasn't referring to those types of people, but continue with your hysteria...

Today's progressives are behaving like yesterday's fascists...

False equivalence. Today's progressives want people to be treated equally. Today's fascists want to kill blacks and Jews. The white supremacists are making the statement to blacks and Jews "if I win, I will kill you". That creates a very hostile work environment.

Posted: **Wed Aug 16, 2017 5:41 pm**

What if the DNC Russian “hack” was really a leak after all? A new report raises questions media and Democrats would rather ignore. A group of intelligence pros and forensic investigators tell The Nation there was no hack— the media ignores it

http://www.salon.com/2017/08/15/what-if-the-dnc-russian-hack-was-really-a-leak-after-all-a-new-report-raises-questions-media-and-democrats-would-rather-ignore/

Last week the respected left-liberal magazine The Nation published an explosive article that details in great depth the findings of a new report — authored in large part by former U.S. intelligence officers — which claims to present forensic evidence that the Democratic National Committee was not hacked by the Russians in July 2016. Instead, the report alleges, the DNC suffered an insider leak, conducted in the Eastern time zone of the United States by someone with physical access to a DNC computer.

This report also claims there is no apparent evidence that the hacker known as Guccifer 2.0 — supposedly based in Romania — hacked the DNC on behalf of the Russian government. There is also no evidence, the report’s authors say, that Guccifer handed documents over to WikiLeaks. Instead, the report says that the evidence and timeline of events suggests that Guccifer may have been conjured up in an attempt to deflect from the embarrassing information about Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign that was released just before the Democratic National Convention. The investigators found that some of the “Guccifer” files had been deliberately altered by copying and pasting the text into a “Russianified” word-processing document with Russian-language settings.

If all this is true, these findings would constitute a massive embarrassment for not only the DNC itself but the media, which has breathlessly pushed the Russian hacking narrative for an entire year, almost without question but with little solid evidence to back it up...For the media and mainstream liberals to dismiss the information presented in Lawrence’s article as lacking in evidence would be breathtakingly ironic, given how little evidence they required to build a narrative to suit themselves and absolve Clinton of any responsibility for losing the election.

The authors of this report are highly experienced and well-regarded professionals. That they can be dismissed out of hand or ignored entirely is a sad commentary on the state of the media, which purports to be concerned by the plague of “fake news.”

If these new findings are accurate, those who pushed the Russia hacking narrative with little evidence have a lot to answer for. The Clinton campaign promoted a narrative that has pushed U.S.-Russia relations to the brink at an incredibly dangerous time.

But...but...the RUSSIANS!!!!

Posted: **Wed Aug 16, 2017 5:43 pm**

General Apathy wrote: Where did I at any time vent hatred or justify violence? Show me.

Every one of your posts on this topic has been some variation of "Yeah, but why aren't we talking about BLM/Antifa instead?"

The only thing this person dying meant to you was a chance to attack.

Since the shit you just posted bears no resemblance whatsoever to what I've consistently posted, why don't you take a long, hard look in the mirror and ask why you do this.

Neither the far left or far right is on "my team", so I have nothing to gain from sticking up for either.

You'll notice that when there's acts of left wing violence, I don't post a bunch of "BUT WHAT ABOUT THE RIIIIIIIGHT" shit, because that'd be:

A: Nuts

B: Providing violent cretins with moral cover by distracting from the conversation that needs to happen.

So why do it?

Posted: **Wed Aug 16, 2017 5:46 pm**

General Apathy wrote:But hey, it's OK because the folks who did this KNEW they were right. They KNEW that they were called to action. See, they get to decide if assault and discrimination is OK. And they did.

and today?

Fuck those guys. They are cunts and belong in jail.

See? That wasn't hard at all.
No qualifiers. No "But what about". No "This one time at band camp".

Why is it so hard for you?

Posted: **Wed Aug 16, 2017 5:53 pm**

Here you go folks. Be there or be square.

Register Today!

Sat, August 19, 2017
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This Nightmare Must End: The Trump/Pence Regime Must Go!
In the Name of Humanity,
We REFUSE to Accept a Fascist America!

https://refusefascism.org/this-fascist-regime-must-be-driven-out-you-are-needed-ways-to-act/regional-meetings-august-19/

Unless something changes, we can look forward, at the very least, to mobs in the streets, assaults by black-clad masked goons, shops destroyed, cars overturned and set ablaze, everything that we’ve seen recently in Berkeley, Ferguson, and Baltimore. But that's OK boys and girls, isn't it? THEY'VE decided they are right and they MUST do this.

Supported as it is by the media, academic, and entertainment spheres, and with the people supposedly “in power” showing no awareness that any of the sort is happening (can anyone picture Ryan or McConnell actually responding to this? Or Trump doing so coherently?), it will continue until an end is put to it – very likely by a jaw-dropping episode of violence. So circle November 4th on your calendars. On the date, avoid college campuses, federal buildings, and similar sites. Make necessary appointments for some other date. Pay attention to the news to assure that you won’t be inadvertently driving into a madhouse. It’s very likely nothing will come of this, that it’s just another left-wing wish-fulfillment pantomime of a type carried out by leftists every year – if not every six months – since the 60s.

Another factor involved here concerns the simple fact that once the resistance turns serious and the rioters start dying, the revolutionary army tends to evaporate rather quickly, as occurred during the last mass revolutionary spasm in the spring of 1970. After Kent and Jackson state – four and nine fatalities, respectively, in both cases triggered by leftist actions -- it became a little difficult to scrape up a convincing People’s Liberation Army. In short order, the hard core turned to bombings and bank robberies, along the lines of the SLA and the Weathermen. But it may take a larger effusion of blood to get the same effect today, whether we like it or not. With mail order thugs they can hire, and professional agitators leading the useful idiots (like y'all) there is no telling how far folks will go ..."as far as necessary" I think the phrase here was.

It sure seems they want to do their part to pour gasoline on the fire. All with the full blessing of the "true believers" here who back them.

So avoid the rush and sign up now. Volunteer to help organize. Donate now!!!

Posted: **Wed Aug 16, 2017 5:58 pm**

Normal people: "Nazis are bad, they've killed people and want to kill more, and they should be stopped."
Grampa Apathy: "But what about ANTIFA? They broke some windows."

Posted: **Wed Aug 16, 2017 6:05 pm**

And Apathy reaches his apotheosis, realizing that the first amendment allows people to do things he doesn't like.

I'm sure every one of them is a violent criminal. Better get the cops on it. After all, we can't have Americans exercising their rights.
What would happen next?

Better gas them.

Yeah, the peaceful ones too. They're communists in disguise. Remember the weathermen? No? Well, gas them just in case. Rubber bullets too.

Nothing says "Land of the free" like a line of gas-masked cops with automatic weapons.

What's that you say?
The vast majority of any protest are peaceful Americans, exercising their rights and assembling to make their voice heard?
The "left" and "right" aren't monolithic blocs with a single mind driving them?

Sounds like commie BLM propaganda to me. Better get the tear gas going.

After all, how can we tell we are free, if there's not a cop beating us with sticks?

Posted: **Wed Aug 16, 2017 6:11 pm**

Adam Smiths Left Nut wrote:
General Apathy wrote:But hey, it's OK because the folks who did this KNEW they were right. They KNEW that they were called to action. See, they get to decide if assault and discrimination is OK. And they did.

and today?

Fuck those guys. They are cunts and belong in jail.

See? That wasn't hard at all.
No qualifiers. No "But what about". No "This one time at band camp".

Why is it so hard for you?

Not hard at all. I didn't put any qualifiers on when I called them domestic terrorists and said I was in favor of the AG treating them as such as well as pursuing them with federal law for what they did. I suggested that there was likely a lot of personal video that would help law and order do that.

Fuck you. I've been clear about how they should be handled from the beginning. The fact you choose to ignore that to continue this nonsense shows you are either trying to become your locale's version of Rebby the town moron, or you are willfully ignoring what I have actually posted so you can be a dishonest troll.

Why is it so hard for you to be honest?

Posted: **Wed Aug 16, 2017 6:12 pm**

And Apathy reaches his apotheosis, realizing that the first amendment allows people to do things he doesn't like.

FTFU. I've been aware of that from the outset.

Posted: **Wed Aug 16, 2017 6:15 pm**

rebelyell2006 wrote:Normal people: "Nazis are bad, they've killed people and want to kill more, and they should be stopped."
Grampa Apathy: "But what about ANTIFA? They broke some windows."

More nonsense from the Town Moron, I see. Pointing out that there were violent thugs on the other side doesn't excuse what the Nazis did and I've repeatedly called for them to be handled with the full force of federal law.

But then, the significance of that concept eluded you, didn't it? No surprise there.

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