Frothers Unite! UK

Guest wrote:What's with all this ALT-right nonsense?

In what way does the 'alt-right' differ from...well, the 'right'?

What's the 'alt' bit bringing to it?

Am I missing something or is it just a bit of pointless labelling and buzzword?

Same with 'false-news'. Why invent a new phrase when a perfectly good one already exists - 'lies'?

Monkeyborg wrote:

Guest wrote:When if ever did the Nazis call themselves "Fascists"?

Definition of fascism
1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism

Dickhead.

rebelyell2006 wrote:

Condottiero wrote:

rebelyell2006 wrote:Like I said Condi, it is not a suicide pact. We do not allow ISIS to fundraise here, despite money being considered political speech in the USA (thanks to the Citizens United ruling). People trying to subvert and destroy American liberties and democracy and trying to kill minorities should not be permitted to do so in the name of free speech.

Only due to being at war with the aforementioned group...

Nothing to prevent the IRA and other extremists unofficially being funded in the past...

Mosques are being surveilled, but until individuals do something or are caught planning to, it's covered under free speech. You're idea of a society is rather Orwellian or on a less sophisticated level, like the one in Demolition Man.

Speaking of denying groups the right of assembly and speech, how about Nation of Islam rallies or Louis Farrakhan speaking speaking at Berkeley - anti-Asian, anti-homosexual and referring to Jews as the source of evil? How about a millennial black bitch who called me a Zionist and a kike at my then workplace? She mentioned being a recent convert and that ISIS doesn't exist. Lefties ignore this type of behaviour, claiming it's due to mental illness and trivialize it as simply an inconvenience.

The nazis want to kill blacks and Jews. The white supremacists want to kill blacks and Jews. This isn't an opinion, that is their stated goal. They aren't exercising their free speech, they are stating what they will do if they take over. And they have done so in places where they controlled, like in Jim Crow South, Apartheid South Africa, and Nazi Germany. You are engaging in false equivocation.

Adam smiths left nut wrote:Yeah, for a second, before launching into your good old Clinton/Blm/antifa routine, before the bodies were even cold.

That's why people don't take you seriously. Because you pay lip service before using death as a vehicle to vent your hatreds and help justify violence.
"Yeah, it's oh so sad but what about the people that didn't commit murder on that day? Why aren't we condemning them?"

"Sure, murder is bad, but look at those protesters". "Sure, the cops shot him but he did shoplift".

Take a long, hard look in the mirror and ask why you do this.

Guest wrote:

Condottiero wrote:

McKinstry wrote:

Like in the GDR...

I'm absolutely fine with the government allowing free speech and lawful assembly no matter how vile the speech and these assholes were absolutely free to assemble and say whatever.

I am equally fine with their fellow citizens such as these folks employers learning what their employees do in their spare time and firing their racist ass.

I'm retired now but had I an employee that vile, I would have canned them at the first opportunity.

Then you would've rightly been sued for wrongful dismissal...

From what I know of 'worker's rights' in America that's bollocks.

rebelyell2006 wrote:Plus, having overt white supremacists around creates a hostile work environment.

The president of a College Republicans chapter said he was attacked and choked by hard-left activists as he attended a vigil for the woman killed Saturday at the Charlottesville Unite the Right demonstration.

Ithaca College student Caleb Slater wrote in a statement that masked members of Antifa assaulted him at a Syracuse event held on Sunday in memory of Heather Heyer, who died when a driver plowed into counter-protesters in Virginia. Slater wrote that he wore a Young America's Foundation (YAF) hat to the vigil "as a symbol of peace," and he hoped showing up to the left-wing Black Lives Matter program as an identifiable conservative would demonstrate that "conservatives condemn the actions of the alt-right just as much as anyone else in our culture."

An hour into the program, Slater said he was approached by black-clad Antifa activists, one of whom shouted, "Are you with right wing media? Why do you have the f***ing hat on? You're with Young America's Foundation?"

The group reportedly chanted, "We don't want you here" and "No Trump, No KKK, No Nazi USA, go away."

"At this point I turned on my camera, because I did not know what they planned on doing to me. She got more aggressive and Antifa supporters surrounded me, like a pack of wolves," Slater wrote. "One member tried to grab my camera, to which I latched hard to, so that they would not damage my personal property." "Another member of Antifa took the hat off my head, screamed more expletives and tossed my YAF hat away," he continued. "It was at this moment the camera stopped rolling, as someone pressed the record button on my camera and then proceeded to yank on the strap of my camera, choking me."

Slater said he was then grabbed by the shirt and thrown into the street.

"This was NOT a blocked off road and cars were present. I could have gotten run over and they did not care," he wrote, adding, "Nobody came to help me."

Slater, who is the half-Dominican, half-black grandson of a civil rights activist, said, "I came to this event in peace, I came to this event to stand beside my fellow Americans to disavow bigotry and instead I became the victim of bigotry, an intellectual bigotry. I was not attacked for my words, nor my actions. I was attacked for being a conservative."

Antifa Protesters Crash Heather Heyer’s Funeral

Condottiero wrote:

rebelyell2006 wrote:

Condottiero wrote:

rebelyell2006 wrote:Like I said Condi, it is not a suicide pact. We do not allow ISIS to fundraise here, despite money being considered political speech in the USA (thanks to the Citizens United ruling). People trying to subvert and destroy American liberties and democracy and trying to kill minorities should not be permitted to do so in the name of free speech.

Only due to being at war with the aforementioned group...

Nothing to prevent the IRA and other extremists unofficially being funded in the past...

Mosques are being surveilled, but until individuals do something or are caught planning to, it's covered under free speech. You're idea of a society is rather Orwellian or on a less sophisticated level, like the one in Demolition Man.

Speaking of denying groups the right of assembly and speech, how about Nation of Islam rallies or Louis Farrakhan speaking speaking at Berkeley - anti-Asian, anti-homosexual and referring to Jews as the source of evil? How about a millennial black bitch who called me a Zionist and a kike at my then workplace? She mentioned being a recent convert and that ISIS doesn't exist. Lefties ignore this type of behaviour, claiming it's due to mental illness and trivialize it as simply an inconvenience.

The nazis want to kill blacks and Jews. The white supremacists want to kill blacks and Jews. This isn't an opinion, that is their stated goal. They aren't exercising their free speech, they are stating what they will do if they take over. And they have done so in places where they controlled, like in Jim Crow South, Apartheid South Africa, and Nazi Germany. You are engaging in false equivocation.

Black supremacists want to kill anyone different than them and are doing so in parts of Africa today, but that's there, this is here and there are laws in place to ensure that mob rule isn't appropriate behavior. No "false equivocation", but you're acting like a Fox News viewer...