Adam smiths left nut wrote:As expected, Apathy is incapable of simply saying "I condemn Nazi murderers" without rambling on about protesters.
As I said, interference. The conversation must immediately be changed to distract from the topic that must not be discussed.
How many dead would it have taken to actually face the problem of radical racial violence with eyes open, and not try to deflect?
Do you have any sense of shame left or have you sacrificed everything?
Oh bullshit. Do you have no sense of shame left or have you never had any to begin with? I'm not sure how, from the outset, speaking against the violent agitators gives you that idea. Or my claiming the ones breaking the law should have the full force of the law brought to bear against them. Or pointing out that there is likely personal video not yet in the hands of the authorities that will help track down suspects as it apparently had in the case of the beating of the young black man in the parking garage.
Pointing out that we are a society of laws where hate speech is protected by law, as distasteful as I find it those assholes were entitled to peacefully march under the conditions of their permits. Nothing more. In pointing out there were SOME bad actors from the other side, I in no way dismissed the bad acts of those on the alt right.
In case you haven't noticed, I've been discussing radical racial violence from the outset, and have posted specifically and clearly about my opposition to the cops who shoot minorities with no cause. I've also posted specifically and clearly about the folks calling for the killing and assassination of police officers just because they wear the uniform, even though they may themselves be minorities, and may be some of the ones who brought the law breaking cops to justice. Then, just like now, I haven't absolved the bad actors on either side for the violence or the crimes they commit.
Nor have I tried to stop the discussion of the problems that a society with rules and laws have with difficult issues where distasteful opinions are being expressed legally. I've tried to address the shortcomings of the government and law enforcement when they don't do what they should be doing like in Charlottesville. Just like in Berkeley. And Baltimore. And elsewhere.
When the laws of the land can be broken on a whim because the individual feels they have the right to do so, you no longer have a civil society. What do you think the ones being killed by the policies advocated here will do in response? Are you all so fucking stupid that you WANT to trigger a race war? That you WANT to give those alt-right the cover of "We're just fighting back against those trying to kill us?"
There are folks here calling outright for murder of those who THEY have decided need to be killed. I've yet to hear you say anything in opposition to the mob violence being promoted. Folks are posting here that the freedoms we have should selectively be excluded from some others, and that the law can and should be violently be broken by those who believe they are on the side of right.
That's what Tim McVey claimed he was doing. That's what that murderous asshole in the black church was doing.
And it seems to be fine with you.
