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Re: State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 8:25 pm
by Drjackson
Why do they carry torches - Is it a kkk thing ?

Re: State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 8:37 pm
by JJCH nli
Bronshtein wrote:The difficulty in any country trying to run a system in opposition to oligarchical control of resources is that the robber barons in charge of the system outside your country have a vested interest in making that system fail.

That's why the US has tried to break Cuba and now Venezuela through trade, corruption, encouragement of criminal gangs and globalist gangsters..

Rather than saying - okay you run your country your way and we'll trade as normal - they blockade, embargo, threaten and cajole, they illegally support trouble makers internally and lie about the root causes of the problems in the press. They rig prices and supply and point the finger at the politicians trying to ensure an equitable distribution of wealth.

How much do you see in the 'popular' press about Venezuela's poor, oppressed by the evil socialist dictator? Tons.
How much do you see in the 'popular' press about Saudi Arabia's poor oppressed by evil hereditary friends of the US? Fuck all.


Julia Blunck made exactly the same point but drew the parrallel with Venezuela's biggest neighbour.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... las-maduro

I'm not suggesting the US should intervene in Brazil, in fact the past couple of decades of the US ignoring Latin America have been refreshing. Brazil has greater oil reserves, far bigger economy and a much more significant strategic importance than Venezuela. It's currently in the grip of a corrupt and incompetent administration and ignoring all calls for democratic elections. About 5% of the population show any enthusiasm for the President, far less than Maduro.

Maduro is a twat and I have little doubt that a degree of endemic corruption has become entrenched in his administration butvthe facts remain that he was freely elected and that Venezuela is an established civil society with a long standing history of democratic rule. The latifundistas within and without can't stand the policies his predecessor put in place to reduce their power. See the sleek well dressed students protesting on the streets or their mum's and dad's? Think that's the face of the poor and oppresssed?

I wouldn't want to be in Venezuela for love nor money right now but the locals should be left to sort things out for themselves.

Re: State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 8:39 pm
by kyotebue2
Fucking Nazis...

Re: State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 8:40 pm
by rebelyell2006
Drjackson wrote:Why do they carry torches - Is it a kkk thing ?


The Klan carried torches at their rallies. As the the Nazis at their night-time rallies.

Re: State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 9:39 pm
by Altius
"If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."
- Lyndon Johnson

Re: State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 10:01 pm
by kyotebue2
One dead in Virgina 19 injured, in Right Wing Terror Attack.

Re: State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 10:24 pm
by Drjackson
Is GA's state the home of the KKK ?

Re: State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 10:31 pm
by Adam Smiths Left Nut
You know what, Kudos to Trump for a change for speaking plainly and condemning this shit.

Re: State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 10:36 pm
by Bronshtein

Re: State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 10:37 pm
by Adam Smiths Left Nut
Drjackson wrote:Why do they carry torches - Is it a kkk thing ?


It's a Nazi and KKK thing... but these guys are like discount nazi's so they use backyard tiki torches, because nothing says "Aryan master race" like a tiki torch.