So this EU thing

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Re: So this EU thing

Postby Australian Dawn » Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:56 am

She probably reasons that the best way to communicate with people who want Britain to turn back the clock and turn it's back on Europe is probably with some good old fashioned four letter Anglo Saxon.
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Re: So this EU thing

Postby FFS » Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:54 am

From a blog by Chris Grey :-

A small majority secured on the back of a flawed campaign in 2016, in which electoral law was broken, interpreted in an extreme form that was not endorsed by the General Election of 2017, is now being used as a mandate for an even more extreme and damaging version of Brexit. Our future will now be in the hands of a man chosen by a tiny and extremist fragment of the population in 2019. He – whoever of them it is - will have come to office claiming the right to do something that was never put to the electorate – and indeed is the opposite of what they were promised – and which is almost certainly against the wishes of the majority.


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http://chrisgreybrexitblog.blogspot.com/2019/06/tantric-brexit.html
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Re: So this EU thing

Postby Bronshtein » Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:44 am

But how do those of of us who agree that this is a disaster get anything to change?

There was a majority for leave three years ago - but it was narrow, sold on a multitude of false promises about a multitude of unrelated issues and is almost certainly not a majority now.

The idea that you can only decide these issues once is obvious nonsense given leavers never stopped maoning over the years until they badgered Call me Dave into an unconstitutional 'fix' for his Party's problem over unity.

I hate the phrase 'Perfect Storm', it is lazy and simplistic, but there has been a quite unusual conjunction of factors to enable this to happen, not least the 'return' to a 70s Internationalist Labour leadership who think of the EU as the vanguard of Globalisation and haven't looked out of the window at the world as it is in 2019 rather than 1979.

Beyond this, and beyond even Brexit there are desperately disturbing signs of terminal decay in a system that allows a chancer like Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson to have even a sniff of high office, let alone be Prime Minister.

When judges ignore the plain face of the law and allow police to taser people because they refuse to give their identity (not required under English law - except under exceptional circumstances - terror legislation), when terrorist legislation is misused to convict protestors against illegal deportations of British citizens, when the Home Secretary strips British citizenship from someone to allow her British baby to die, when we elect little Englander MEPs on a populist ticket under the control of a commodities broker funded by shadowy money men, we are in real, deep, beyond swearing, trouble.

I suspect the facade of democracy has cracked right through in the 'Anglo-Saxon' World. Whether someone can patch it back up at this late stage is decidedly moot.
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Re: So this EU thing

Postby Guest » Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:23 pm

Not only that, but our local shop will probably no longer sell Ritter Sports bars as well.
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Re: So this EU thing

Postby LimeyCunt » Fri Jun 21, 2019 7:43 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... nsons-home

Apparently Boris can go a bit mental. Who knew...?

Brexiters, hail your reasonable leader! Actually they’ll probably love it. This is likely good for another 1% swing in his favour.
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Re: So this EU thing

Postby Voice From Limbo » Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:40 pm

". . .Symonds, who has been credited with revitalizing his appearance. . ."

Wot? Current Boris is the "improved" version? :shock:
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Re: So this EU thing

Postby LimeyCunt » Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:54 pm

Oh yes. They’ve cut his hair and taught him how to keep his mouth shut.


...mostly...
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Re: So this EU thing

Postby Guest » Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:49 pm

LimeyCunt wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/21/police-called-to-loud-altercation-at-boris-johnsons-home

Apparently Boris can go a bit mental. Who knew...?

Brexiters, hail your reasonable leader! Actually they’ll probably love it. This is likely good for another 1% swing in his favour.

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Re: So this EU thing

Postby Condottiero » Sat Jun 22, 2019 12:24 am

LimeyCunt wrote:Oh yes. They’ve cut his hair and taught him how to keep his mouth shut.


...mostly...


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Re: So this EU thing

Postby We are truly screwed » Sat Jun 22, 2019 4:35 pm

Bronshtein wrote:But how do those of of us who agree that this is a disaster get anything to change?

There was a majority for leave three years ago - but it was narrow, sold on a multitude of false promises about a multitude of unrelated issues and is almost certainly not a majority now.

The idea that you can only decide these issues once is obvious nonsense given leavers never stopped maoning over the years until they badgered Call me Dave into an unconstitutional 'fix' for his Party's problem over unity.

I hate the phrase 'Perfect Storm', it is lazy and simplistic, but there has been a quite unusual conjunction of factors to enable this to happen, not least the 'return' to a 70s Internationalist Labour leadership who think of the EU as the vanguard of Globalisation and haven't looked out of the window at the world as it is in 2019 rather than 1979.

Beyond this, and beyond even Brexit there are desperately disturbing signs of terminal decay in a system that allows a chancer like Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson to have even a sniff of high office, let alone be Prime Minister.

When judges ignore the plain face of the law and allow police to taser people because they refuse to give their identity (not required under English law - except under exceptional circumstances - terror legislation), when terrorist legislation is misused to convict protestors against illegal deportations of British citizens, when the Home Secretary strips British citizenship from someone to allow her British baby to die, when we elect little Englander MEPs on a populist ticket under the control of a commodities broker funded by shadowy money men, we are in real, deep, beyond swearing, trouble.

I suspect the facade of democracy has cracked right through in the 'Anglo-Saxon' World. Whether someone can patch it back up at this late stage is decidedly moot.


I fear that you are correct; we seem to be entering an era where those who shout loudest will dominate what passes for political debate in many ‘Anglo-Saxon’ countries. Populism writ large.

Can it be patched up? I doubt that it can, so tighten your seat belts and hold on to your seats; it is going to be a very bumpy ride.
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