So this EU thing

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Re: So this EU thing

Postby HongKongPhooey » Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:41 pm

I didn't disbelieve you. In fact I was inclined to believe it. However, in this era of fakery and opinions masquerading as fact, I was asking for some evidence and data to read up on.
You haven't provided any unfortunately and so my initial inclination is drifting.
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Re: So this EU thing

Postby Bronshtein » Thu Dec 20, 2018 1:50 am

Bollocks.
Common sense I can see is a problem, but even you can google the Panama papers and Rees Mogg's offshore funds.
Gangster capitalism may take more effort than you are inclined to commit but it would explain quite a lot about what is going on to you if you could be bothered.
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Re: So this EU thing

Postby Brexitard » Thu Dec 20, 2018 8:45 am

Give me 3 things that membership of the EU gives me which I could not have without membership and explain why I'd actually want them.
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Re: So this EU thing

Postby heaps of bodies » Thu Dec 20, 2018 9:35 am

Brexitard wrote:Give me 3 things that membership of the EU gives me which I could not have without membership and explain why I'd actually want them.


Should you not have asked that question before the referendum?

Don't worry though, your instinctive reason for voting to leave will not be altered in any way, whether we stay or go, or how we eventually do go. <<<coughcoughBrownPeoplecouchcough>>
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Re: So this EU thing

Postby FFS » Thu Dec 20, 2018 11:34 am

Brexitard wrote:
Give me 3 things that membership of the EU gives me which I could not have without membership and explain why I'd actually want them.


Taking you at face vaue:

1 Freedom of movement.*
2 Retaining your human rights.+
3 Retaining your employment rights.+

* Some people(yes I'm looking at you Digby Jones) seemed to think this would only restrict furriners, and are aghast that it applies to them visiting "Europe" :loopy:

+ If you're happy to entrust your citizens rights to this government, and future Westminster administrations, without some "Rights Backstop" then you have nothing to worry about.
See you on the other side of Brexit. :?
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Re: So this EU thing

Postby ... - - - ... » Thu Dec 20, 2018 3:31 pm

FFS wrote:
Brexitard wrote:
Give me 3 things that membership of the EU gives me which I could not have without membership and explain why I'd actually want them.


Taking you at face vaue:

1 Freedom of movement.*
2 Retaining your human rights.+
3 Retaining your employment rights.+

* Some people(yes I'm looking at you Digby Jones) seemed to think this would only restrict furriners, and are aghast that it applies to them visiting "Europe" :loopy:

+ If you're happy to entrust your citizens rights to this government, and future Westminster administrations, without some "Rights Backstop" then you have nothing to worry about.
See you on the other side of Brexit. :?


One might add frictionless access to the European Single Market and automatic inclusion in every international trade deal that the EU agrees, like that amazing one with Japan that Liam Fox is so keen on; the one that will not include us as it comes into force after we leave the EU.
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Re: So this EU thing

Postby FFS » Thu Dec 20, 2018 8:13 pm

Good summing up of the political situation at Westminster.
From Twitter.


Damon Evans
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Dec 18

Brexit is a disaster.
May is dreadful.
Corbyn is useless.
Cable is pointless.
Tory Cabinet is woeful.
Labour Shadow Cabinet is awful.
Lib Dems are non-existent.
ERG are wankers.
DUP are blackmailing bigots.
UKIP are fascists.

Other than that, things are looking good.
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Re: So this EU thing

Postby Much LOLZ » Thu Dec 20, 2018 9:32 pm

FFS wrote:
Brexitard wrote:
Give me 3 things that membership of the EU gives me which I could not have without membership and explain why I'd actually want them.


Taking you at face vaue:

1 Freedom of movement.*
2 Retaining your human rights.+
3 Retaining your employment rights.+

* Some people(yes I'm looking at you Digby Jones) seemed to think this would only restrict furriners, and are aghast that it applies to them visiting "Europe" :loopy:

+ If you're happy to entrust your citizens rights to this government, and future Westminster administrations, without some "Rights Backstop" then you have nothing to worry about.
See you on the other side of Brexit. :?


Because the UK never had freedom of movement, human rights, or employment rights before the EU fiasco. LOLZ
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Re: So this EU thing

Postby FFS » Thu Dec 20, 2018 9:49 pm

Didn't say that. Just trying to hint that we will not have them for very long after UK leaves if left to the present bunch of lying avaricious cretins.
I wouldn't trust them as far as I could chuck the lot of them.
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Re: So this EU thing

Postby Avaricious Politician » Fri Dec 21, 2018 4:42 am

FFS wrote:Didn't say that. Just trying to hint that we will not have them for very long after UK leaves if left to the present bunch of lying avaricious cretins.
I wouldn't trust them as far as I could chuck the lot of them.


Because most politicians weren't already lying avaricious cretins during our membership? To include those on the continent as well as Parliament?
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