Mapmaking question....church symbols

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Mapmaking question....church symbols

Postby The Masked Frother » Thu Apr 03, 2014 4:34 pm

I have a map I downloaded which depicted Barsetshire. I am intending to use it as the site of my VBCW games. It's a good map, showing all the villages, mansions and significant hils, etc. In the villages and towns there are three different church symbols used: a cross, a hollow square with a cross and a hollow ciricle with a cross. Question: what do they represent? My assumption is that the crosses are small village chapels, and that the others are larger churches. There are more squares than circles so my second assumption is square = anglican and circle = catholic. Seem reasonable? Or maybe circle = "other"? Does anybody know if there is an accepted meaning for the different symbols? Does the UK have the full gambit of churches? Over here in Canada, the village I grew up in had Anglican, Prespiterian (sp), Methodist, and Catholic (but not Baptist, that I can recall). Should I assume a similar mix for the UK circa 1936?
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Re: Mapmaking question....church symbols

Postby Guest » Thu Apr 03, 2014 4:43 pm

cross on it's own is a chapel, with a square means a tower, with a circle means a steeple.
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Postby KingSkin » Thu Apr 03, 2014 4:44 pm

If it's an Ordnance Survey-style map you've got then cross is church, cross above a square is church with a tower and cross above a circle is church with a spire. I don't think they used to mark out denomination so I'd assume most of them are CofE.

Technically, they mean a place of worship, not necessarily a church per se but for a small village in England I'd assume it was probably CofE, possibly Catholic.

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Re: Mapmaking question....church symbols

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Thanks, Ninja included! :D
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Postby kawasaki on another pooter » Thu Apr 03, 2014 5:33 pm

We've got the full GAMUT :wink: of churches over here. After all, we invented most of them after Henry VIII pissed off the pope.

Anglican, Roman Catholic, Baptist, Methodist, Wesleyan (that was big around were I live back in the day, lots of Wesleyan chapels) you name it.

Probably wouldn't be many Mormon tabernacles though :lol:

Here's a pictorial list of Ordnance Survey symbology you might find useful

http://mapzone.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/map ... ols50k.pdf
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Re: Mapmaking question....church symbols

Postby kawasaki on another pooter » Thu Apr 03, 2014 5:33 pm

We've got the full GAMUT :wink: of churches over here. After all, we invented most of them after Henry VIII pissed off the pope.

Anglican, Roman Catholic, Baptist, Methodist, Wesleyan (that was big around were I live back in the day, lots of Wesleyan chapels) you name it.

Probably wouldn't be many Mormon tabernacles though :lol:

Here's a pictorial list of Ordnance Survey symbology you might find useful

http://mapzone.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/map ... ols50k.pdf
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Postby overrevdsquat » Thu Apr 03, 2014 5:58 pm

Catholic is less likely in smaller places, unless there is a specific shrine, or community (Irish immigrant in particular). Methodist of various hues will be very common, Anglican ubiquitous. Others will be mostly congregational rather than presbyterian (which again would be restricted to mostly larger urban areas, usually connected to scottish immigrant communities).
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Postby Bronshtein » Thu Apr 03, 2014 6:28 pm

If your Barsetshire map purports to be 1936ish (or at any rate the old 1" series rather than the 50,000 landranger) the building will be church or chapel (with spire, tower or none as stated) not any place of worship as the modern legend has it - and most decidedly not with minaret in that period.
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Postby kawasaki on another pooter » Thu Apr 03, 2014 7:05 pm

Or a synagogue...
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Re: Mapmaking question....church symbols

Postby The Masked Frother » Thu Apr 03, 2014 7:23 pm

A quick google will find the map. Very spiffy it is. From one of the Trollop books, set in the "Mr. Darcey" days IIRC so previous century (I would guess, surely not two centuries back?!) It's main value is the quaint placenames..Winter Overcotes, Winter Underclose, Eiderdown, Fleece,Pomfret Madrigal, etc. It's got stately homes; the local trade unions are obviously weavers, and similar; there is a river for Mr. Hick's water rats to lurk about; there is a school (Reform School for Girls). I've just got to work out the politics of the various toffs and work out the factions and go from there. Easy as cake, as they say! :D
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