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Re: Bleak but true

Postby Ajsalium » Thu Mar 20, 2014 11:33 pm

<<Have you not heard of that madman who lit a lantern in the bright morning hours, ran to the market place, and cried incessantly: "I seek God! I seek God!"---As many of those who did not believe in God were standing around just then, he provoked much laughter. Has he got lost? asked one. Did he lose his way like a child? asked another. Or is he hiding? Is he afraid of us? Has he gone on a voyage? emigrated?---Thus they yelled and laughed

The madman jumped into their midst and pierced them with his eyes. "Whither is God?" he cried; "I will tell you. We have killed him---you and I. All of us are his murderers. But how did we do this? How could we drink up the sea? Who gave us the sponge to wipe away the entire horizon? What were we doing when we unchained this earth from its sun? Whither is it moving now? Whither are we moving? Away from all suns? Are we not plunging continually? Backward, sideward, forward, in all directions? Is there still any up or down? Are we not straying, as through an infinite nothing? Do we not feel the breath of empty space? Has it not become colder? Is not night continually closing in on us? Do we not need to light lanterns in the morning? Do we hear nothing as yet of the noise of the gravediggers who are burying God? Do we smell nothing as yet of the divine decomposition? Gods, too, decompose. God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him.

"How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives: who will wipe this blood off us? What water is there for us to clean ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we ourselves not become gods simply to appear worthy of it? There has never been a greater deed; and whoever is born after us---for the sake of this deed he will belong to a higher history than all history hitherto."

Here the madman fell silent and looked again at his listeners; and they, too, were silent and stared at him in astonishment. At last he threw his lantern on the ground, and it broke into pieces and went out. "I have come too early," he said then; "my time is not yet. This tremendous event is still on its way, still wandering; it has not yet reached the ears of men. Lightning and thunder require time; the light of the stars requires time; deeds, though done, still require time to be seen and heard. This deed is still more distant from them than most distant stars---and yet they have done it themselves.

It has been related further that on the same day the madman forced his way into several churches and there struck up his requiem aeternam deo. Led out and called to account, he is said always to have replied nothing but: "What after all are these churches now if they are not the tombs and sepulchers of God?">>

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Re: Bleak but true

Postby Goldwyrm » Fri Mar 21, 2014 3:55 am

He looks sad.
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Re: Bleak but true

Postby Jakar Nilson » Fri Mar 21, 2014 4:14 am

Goldwyrm wrote:He looks sad.


You're right. He needs a horse to rescue.
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Re: Bleak but true

Postby Rumplestilzskin » Fri Mar 21, 2014 6:51 am

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I did notice that some people seemed to take certain posts of mine perhaps a tadge more seriously than might have been expected... Who can blame them; someone who uses the moniker 'Rumplestilzskin' on an Internet forum is surely going to be completely serious, all of the time. :loopy:
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Re: Bleak but true

Postby Duff » Sat Mar 22, 2014 9:56 pm

Ajsalium wrote:I guess so, because that seems to be the typical misconception about catholics by non-catholics; but I'm fairly certain that I have already explained this before (don't you listen to me, Duff :cry: ?).

Mary may be revered, but not worshiped. She is, definitely, not divine. In fact, it is because she's (or was) human that she's prayed to, to intercede for us because God may not truly understand how weak and petty we are.

But as you can see, you can be raised in a catholics country and still be an atheist.


I was raised a Catholic as well. I did say in the post that "it could be argued", I didn't make an absolute statement. Though I still disagree with you. The Church's theological stance is as you say, but the average Catholic's beliefs have little to do with Vatican doctrine, and to them, Mary is divine.
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Re: Bleak but true

Postby THE Killer Bob » Tue Mar 25, 2014 10:57 pm

DemonEtrigan wrote: And apologies for the delayed response but a day dealing with the random architectural ramblings of UK Telcos wiped me out.


Ha, I've just been away for a week so I out apologise you for the even longer delay in my response! :-P or something.

I might get around to a proper response, but I'm really not up to it at the moment. Sorry.


Hey, are we all piling on Roman Catholics now? Great. Anybody mentioned the cannibalism yet?
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Re: Bleak but true

Postby Badger Loving Fluffster » Wed Mar 26, 2014 1:18 pm

An Alert Humphrey wrote:Something that never existed can't die.

I'm sure Lovecraft would take issue with that
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Re: Bleak but true

Postby Clayface » Wed Mar 26, 2014 3:03 pm

Duff wrote:I was reared a Catholic as well


Fixed that for you. I recall when every little boy wanted to be in the priesthood. Now it's the other way round....

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Re: Bleak but true

Postby The Dozing Dragon » Wed Mar 26, 2014 4:57 pm

Sane Max wrote:
Duff wrote:I was reared a Catholic as well


Fixed that for you. I recall when every little boy wanted to be in the priesthood. Now it's the other way round....

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Re: Bleak but true

Postby Mongrel » Fri Mar 28, 2014 12:52 pm

Oh dear, such dangerous ground, when you start on religion. I'm sure we've done it to death on here over the years and caused no end of shitstorms, but hey ho, go for it boys :lol: :lol: :lol:
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