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Re: Mandela

PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 5:20 pm
by Bronshtein
Super Humphrey wrote:People are criticising Mandela, but one person's freedom fighter is another's terrorist...

Who is criticising? It just describes his tactics.
He and his group used terror tactics - that makes him a terrorist. It doesn't mean he was wrong to oppose the regime.
The word has become pejorative principally because governments want you to equate terrorism with evil. They do this because they generally aren't in control of it, they are afraid it works and it tends to put politicians in the front line as well as/instead of their 19 year old surrogates.
And its nothing to do with F(f)reedom F(f)ighters - anyone can do it - state sponsored, right, left, religious etc. The motivation is irrelevant (except as to whether you support its aims) its simply a methodology.

Re: Mandela

PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 5:38 pm
by Duff
freakinacage wrote:Well one man's freedom fighter is always another man's terrorist...



I don't think that is true at all, I've always been of the mind that one mans terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

Re: Mandela

PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 5:52 pm
by Badger Loving Fluffster
No you've got it all wrong
One man's freedom fighter is another man's terroroist
Ffs

And who let Brony the Pony out of his cage?

Re: Mandela

PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:47 pm
by freakinacage
Duff wrote:
freakinacage wrote:Well one man's freedom fighter is always another man's terrorist...



I don't think that is true at all, I've always been of the mind that one mans terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

It's a good argument but I still think I'm right and you're wrong..

Re: Mandela

PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:01 pm
by SaigonSaddler
Levied Troop wrote:
Hastati wrote:When he won the presidency he could have taken different routes. Oppress the white minority and effectively make himself a Mugabe like dictator? No, he chose unification, reconciliation, and stepped down after one term. He was a great man and the world is poorer without him.


I can't improve on that. RIP Mr Mandela.


Have to agree. He became a giant amongst men.

Re: Mandela

PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:57 pm
by Hermit
There are only a few good elder statesmen left in the world now :(

Aung San Suu Kyi, Archbishop Desmond Tutu and perhaps the Dalai Lama. Can't think of anymore off-hand.

And why did they have to rattle Tony Blair's cage? :evil: He was still avoiding questions on the Iraq war, even though it's widely known that Mandela had been against it.

Re: Mandela

PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:05 pm
by 6milPhil
Well at least we'll still have his picture on the packets of rice.

Re: Mandela

PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:09 pm
by wait, what?
6milPhil wrote:Well at least we'll still have his picture on the packets of rice.


LMFAO, well played sir.

It's all very simple - he was a terrorist and a great man of peace. People change, nothing is black and white (the irony). The important thing is he transitioned in a positive direction, redeemed himself and his country in so doing.

Would that every stupid young man could do the same in time, myself included.

Re: Mandela

PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:50 pm
by Blackie's Left Boot
Loved his work in the Shawshank Redemption. :cry: RIP

Re: Mandela

PostPosted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 10:56 pm
by denzelwashington
Blackie's Left Boot wrote:Loved his work in the Shawshank Redemption. :cry: RIP



I guess it was time for Mandiba to get busy dying.

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