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Skipp wrote:

Doremi Fasol Latido wrote:

Glue sniffer wrote:>>Dullcoat - NO. Spray varnish - NO.

Oh, sage of painty-goodliness... what dost thou recommend?

Revell matt varnish.



Store the tins upside down and only use the varnish from the underside of the lid.

So do you dump any? Having used all the Matt up?

Or use it till it's all gone?

Once you get down to the last dregs it can dry with a slight sheen. It really is the last bit though so dumping it isn't wasting much at all.

Duff wrote:I've never had a problem with spray Dullcote, and only apply gloss first (Halfords Clear Laquer) for added protection from knocks. Gloss for protection, Dullcote to get rid of the gloss.

That

Although cryla matt is good but requires spirits. Have bought some vallejo brush on and am very impressed so far!

spoke to the guys at firestorm the other day and they have tried everywhere, including euro retailers they wouldn't touch with a bargepole

I got fed up with spray varnish after a faithful promise that "brand X won't go frosty" was supplied for a long list of manufacturers and the result was an array of frosty miniatures and (after I developed scepticism) a set of frosty slottabases[1].

So I switched to W&N brush-on on the basis that while wargamers merely piss and moan when a bunch of miniatures are ruined, actual artists who have a painting wrecked are likely to go bonkers enough to try and kill the offending material's manufacturers so it'll all be much less risk averse.

It has a tendency to separate in the bottle, but mixes well on shaking and so far seems to work just perfectly. Also, several nearby shops sell it and if mail-ordered it doesn't have to be delivered by a custom-chartered, ostrich-powered, specially-built, armoured, air-going speedboat just in case it turns out to actually be an accidental nuclear bomb.



[1] They were conveniently available as test subjects.

Frosty spray varnish means that you have either

a) used it in wrong weather conditions
b) not shaken it enough
c) sprayed too close
d) did something else to fuck it up

Let it do dry and then hit again with the well shaken spray in a more temperate clime from about 20cm away without doind whatever d was

Speaking of Revell stuff:
I remember when I was stil playing Warzone (about 10 years ago I guess? Jeeeesus fucking Christ I'm old! ) I tried Revell varnish but dropped it because had no idea why sometimes minis were ok after sealing and sometimes there was the damn gloss. Anyway I remember I was putting freshly sealed models into the fridge to prevent the gloss. Also remember that was making my parents quite pissed

Duff wrote:only apply gloss first (Halfords Clear Laquer) for added protection from knocks.

This stuff?

http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stor ... yId_165505


Only asking as I need some spray varnish for 1 job, where I've used a micro pen, and I'm afraid it'll run if I use my usual brush on varnish...

If not could anyone suggest a spray varnish?

(Also what do I do to avoid misting?)

That's the stuff I use.

Duff wrote:That's the stuff I use.

yup top notch

demi_morgana wrote:Speaking of Revell stuff:
I remember when I was stil playing Warzone (about 10 years ago I guess? Jeeeesus fucking Christ I'm old! ) I tried Revell varnish but dropped it because had no idea why sometimes minis were ok after sealing and sometimes there was the damn gloss. Anyway I remember I was putting freshly sealed models into the fridge to prevent the gloss. Also remember that was making my parents quite pissed

It did tend to be a bit hit and miss when I first used it around 2001. Oddly it would gain more of a shine the more coats you applied sometimes. Since around 2005 though it's been very consistent in my experience so I think Revell might have tweaked the recipe in those intervening years.

Probably,
I am now using it again with (your upside down trick) and it's supermatt