Bronshtein wrote: Condottiero wrote:
Bronshtein wrote:My first girlfriend (if you don't count Clare Weinberg when I was 6) was called Karen. She was gorgeous, ditched me for a Scottish banker (not a euphemism - he worked in the Midland).
Still think she was gorgeous - don't get the septic use of the name as a pejorative term - just shows what shallow little fucks people are sometimes I guess.
Why don't you educate yourself on it sunshine or do you want to be like the coterists here?
I'm aware of its current misuse as an 'amusing' socially negative epithet.
It strikes me as something of the Sharon and Tracy abuse of people who have no way of countering without appearing to play into the hands of smug little spoilt boys and girls who see themselves as socially superior arbiters of what is acceptable.
I'm sure that entitled bitches of any gender deserve all the abuse they get, but use of terms like 'Karen' is sexist racist and probably ageist.
I see no reason to buy into a theatre of cruelty zeitgeist I despise.
Have a nice day.
It would be the incredibly tone-dead radfem Julie Bindel claiming this. Bindel is notoriously “color blind” and I don’t mean that in a good way, so it’s no wonder to me that she’s writing in The Guardian that Karen is a sexist insult, only to get slapped down by a black American Karen.
Look, not to say “Oh, I’m married to a black woman so I’m not racist”, but being a white guy in an all black female family gives me a ring side seat for observing Karen on a pretty much weekly basis.
Karen is the adjunct professor who orders my wife to run and get coffee when Ana’s the keynote speaker.
Karen is the shopper who demands that my niece (another shopper) tell her where the widgets are and then berates her for incompetence when Mayara says she hasn’t a clue.
Karen is the random woman on the street who accused my mother-in-law of being a kidnapper when she was taking care of her much lighter granddaughter.
Karen is the waitron that sent the security guards after my family when they left the restaurant early after being specifically told that I was staying and paying the bill.
Karen is the other waitron who, as soon as I left the table, tried to hustle Ana and Dr. Denise Ferreira da Silva out of the winery where they were discussing their new project.
And Karen is also the white lesbian Brit who insistently provlaims that the “Swedish model” of criminalizing prostitutes’ clients must be applied in places like Brazil where the cops run prostitution and kill thousands of black men, extrajudicially, every year (hi, Julie!)
Sorry, Bronnie. Although there are many people like Condi who do think Karen is some sort of generic insult, or may even use it as a misogynist swipe, Karens are indeed a thing.