The Sad Cunts with No Life Thread

[Cynical guest rides again]

Bronstein is an intelligent and perceptive bloke**, but I'm afraid his insight would be lost on the rump of TNP that remains after Pol Bill's purges.

Legion 4 et al can only ever see a military solution that involves even more guns and bombs.




**fuck knows why he hangs around Frothers.

[Voice From Limbo]

W did have a chat with his daddy -- his "Higher Daddy".

[Just passing by (again)]

In fairness, Britain can hardly claim a military victory in Northern Ireland. And the atrocities the British committed in Malaya (and yes, I know BOTH sides were just as bad) hardly allows us to claim that one with any real sense of pride and achievement.

However, I concede your main point - for a country that claims to have the world's best military (the US) it has a fucking piss poor record and trying to make excuses for it's underwhelming achievements (political correctness) is being wilfully ignorant.

There's your problem - what do you mean by 'military victory'?
Northern Ireland and Malaya and Kenya and lots of other 'difficulties' involved military action but victory (assuming NI was a victory and not another hiatus in the 800 Year War) involved a lot more than military action. They needed a combination of extreme, targeted, violence where required, and social and cultural responses, involving relinquishing control where necessary/expedient.

The problem with the US (and the UK where it has followed the US lead) is that it thinks all its shiny toys alone can 'win'. The problem being, if you do that you don't know what 'winning' is beyond vapourising things/people. You don't know when/how to stop or what you have achieved. The interventions/wars in Afghanistan and Iraq are still going and we have no more security or stability for the west as a result than we did in 2001. Arguably less.

The realpolitik answer would have been to ask Russia for help in Afghanistan and pour money into the northern alliance guys to keep the Taliban busy, put a price on bin Laden's head, ignore Sadadam, arrange an accident for Rumsfeld and Cheyney and get George W to have a chat with his daddy about why Gulf War 1 stopped where it did.

Not a resounding 'military' victory but it would have saved hundreds of thousands of lives and Saddam could have had an unfortunate accident down the line while in a love tryst with bin Laden and the photos on Snapchat to prove it.

There you go applying 'thought' to the situation.

US military intervention policy appears to be 'hit it with big stick'*. Nothing more.

The US struggles if whoever is being hit by the big stick doesn't instantly fall over dead or surrenders.

* They often struggle with hitting the right target with said stick

[Bronshtein]

I wonder who Sadadam is?
We should defintiely ignore him - never fucking heard of him!
Intelligent and perceptive!

[Cynical guest rides again]

I wonder who Sadadam is?
We should defintiely ignore him - never fucking heard of him!
Intelligent and perceptive!

Intelligent and perceptive, and prone to typos.

Don't beat yourself up over it.

[guest]

Christ

http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=479948

Tango's out of the DH Bill. Give it a fucking rest.

[Macunaima nli]

Good idea Bill...

http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=479910

Ideas for the TNP T-shirt?

I love how all the TNP stalwarts are claiming they’d NEVER be offended by a t-shirt. Freedm of speach and all that. I wonder how they’d react if someone wore one of the t-shirts mocking 9-11? Hell, I once got banned on TNP just for posting a “remember the other 9.11” (the Chilean coup) meme on the annual 9.11 thread.

Yeah, they’re a bunch of thick-skinned patriotic American fucks over there, sure.

Still bitter about bring exiled?

Why do you ask, Bill? Hankering for a taste?

[Macunaima nli]

In fairness, Britain can hardly claim a military victory in Northern Ireland. And the atrocities the British committed in Malaya (and yes, I know BOTH sides were just as bad) hardly allows us to claim that one with any real sense of pride and achievement.

However, I concede your main point - for a country that claims to have the world's best military (the US) it has a fucking piss poor record and trying to make excuses for it's underwhelming achievements (political correctness) is being wilfully ignorant.

Hell, the U.S. haven’t even completely subdued the Lakota yet. And that particular comflict has been going on for more than a century and a half, now.

[Bronshtein]

Did the Seminole ever get round to signing a 'peace'treaty with the US? That all kicked off about 200 years ago didn't it?

[floriduh]

The Seminoles, or subsets of the Seminoles signed at least two treaties, with the usual results of treating with Uncle Sugar.

The Miccosuki (had to look up the spelling) seem to have never surrendered, but "accepted" tribal status sometime in the 1960's.

Fun period to game, amphibious and brown water actions with muskets. hard to find figures... well, good figures.

See also Red Stick Creek wars for more fun.