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It's a good thing 'mick the metalsmith' claims to be American, if he were a brit, that would be 'politics' and a banning offence, easily

Macunaima nli wrote:

General Paranoia wrote:Good idea Bill...

http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=479910

Ideas for the TNP T-shirt?

I love how all the TNP stalwarts are claiming they’d NEVER be offended by a t-shirt. Freedm of speach and all that. I wonder how they’d react if someone wore one of the t-shirts mocking 9-11? Hell, I once got banned on TNP just for posting a “remember the other 9.11” (the Chilean coup) meme on the annual 9.11 thread.

Yeah, they’re a bunch of thick-skinned patriotic American fucks over there, sure.

Still bitter about bring exiled?

fairoaks024 wrote:It's a good thing 'mick the metalsmith' claims to be American, if he were a brit, that would be 'politics' and a banning offence, easily

Don't be silly. Billious the Wise has sed he doesn't pick on dirty Brits whatsoever. And he holds Britishers in such high regard he devotes whole threads extolling our virtues. So it must be true.


And anyhoo, MtM wouldn't be 'banned', he'd be sent to 'talk to Gwen', which, as any fule kno is just another way of being 'banned'. Only it's a sanitised version of banning which lays no blame with Billious, as the door is open for a return. Only the door doesn't actually exist. Gwen might very well exist (and I dont mean in Bill's imagination, or when he turns the lights down low in the basement and puts his special wig on) but she has no ability to communicate with transgressors. Therefore it can't possibly be Bill's fault if the naughty person 'chooses' not to come back.

Macunaima nli wrote:

General Paranoia wrote:Good idea Bill...

http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=479910

Ideas for the TNP T-shirt?

I love how all the TNP stalwarts are claiming they’d NEVER be offended by a t-shirt. Freedm of speach and all that. I wonder how they’d react if someone wore one of the t-shirts mocking 9-11? Hell, I once got banned on TNP just for posting a “remember the other 9.11” (the Chilean coup) meme on the annual 9.11 thread.

Yeah, they’re a bunch of thick-skinned patriotic American fucks over there, sure.

There was a bloke wearing one of the SS European tour 39-45 t shirts at Salute. He just looked a sad cunt. Hope his tube trip home crossed paths with some footie fans en route to cheer on the Hotspurs. They'd soon educate him on his wardrobe choices

More Tango inspired chuckles as paulgenna reveals himself to be one of the 'kill em all' mob.

http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=479876

It’s just frustration over the fact that their vaunted ‘world’s best’ military couldn’t win a fucking raffle. It always gives me a giggle when they blame political constraints on committing genocide. Moral considerations aside, don’t they realise that there have been any number of succesful counterinsurgencies throughout history? Britain won a string of them from Malaya to Northern Ireland. I don’t recall any use or need for V-bombers nuking Kuala Lumpur or Belfast.


* Arguably it would improve both. KL has a fucking awful airport.

JJCH nli wrote:It’s just frustration over the fact that their vaunted ‘world’s best’ military couldn’t win a fucking raffle. It always gives me a giggle when they blame political constraints on committing genocide. Moral considerations aside, don’t they realise that there have been any number of succesful counterinsurgencies throughout history? Britain won a string of them from Malaya to Northern Ireland. I don’t recall any use or need for V-bombers nuking Kuala Lumpur or Belfast.


* Arguably it would improve both. KL has a fucking awful airport.

I was too polite to mention our successes. British modesty and stiff upper lip don't ya know?

In fairness, Britain can hardly claim a military victory in Northern Ireland. And the atrocities the British committed in Malaya (and yes, I know BOTH sides were just as bad) hardly allows us to claim that one with any real sense of pride and achievement.

However, I concede your main point - for a country that claims to have the world's best military (the US) it has a fucking piss poor record and trying to make excuses for it's underwhelming achievements (political correctness) is being wilfully ignorant.

You'd almost think that Winston the OFM had read my post.



Hi John! Mind you don't get sent to talk to Gwen for traitorous behaviour or some such nonsense. You'd have to debase yourself to get let back in. Again. Andow that Allen Curtis is dead there's no-one you can hang out to dry for trying to support you either.

Guest wrote:In fairness, Britain can hardly claim a military victory in Northern Ireland. And the atrocities the British committed in Malaya (and yes, I know BOTH sides were just as bad) hardly allows us to claim that one with any real sense of pride and achievement.

However, I concede your main point - for a country that claims to have the world's best military (the US) it has a fucking piss poor record and trying to make excuses for it's underwhelming achievements (political correctness) is being wilfully ignorant.

There's your problem - what do you mean by 'military victory'?
Northern Ireland and Malaya and Kenya and lots of other 'difficulties' involved military action but victory (assuming NI was a victory and not another hiatus in the 800 Year War) involved a lot more than military action. They needed a combination of extreme, targeted, violence where required, and social and cultural responses, involving relinquishing control where necessary/expedient.

The problem with the US (and the UK where it has followed the US lead) is that it thinks all its shiny toys alone can 'win'. The problem being, if you do that you don't know what 'winning' is beyond vapourising things/people. You don't know when/how to stop or what you have achieved. The interventions/wars in Afghanistan and Iraq are still going and we have no more security or stability for the west as a result than we did in 2001. Arguably less.

The realpolitik answer would have been to ask Russia for help in Afghanistan and pour money into the northern alliance guys to keep the Taliban busy, put a price on bin Laden's head, ignore Sadadam, arrange an accident for Rumsfeld and Cheyney and get George W to have a chat with his daddy about why Gulf War 1 stopped where it did.

Not a resounding 'military' victory but it would have saved hundreds of thousands of lives and Saddam could have had an unfortunate accident down the line while in a love tryst with bin Laden and the photos on Snapchat to prove it.