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No room to swing a Khat

PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 6:40 pm
by Bronshtein
I see Theresa is still worrying about what those nice folks on Capitol Hill think of her. Latest grovelling idea is to ignore her drugs advisory body and ban Khat. Not because there is any evidence it does much harm (nor because I suspect she cares very much about the Somali community who are the main users). But because she is worried about Britain becoming a ‘hub’ for the export to other mad countries who have decided this plant is evil. Think she cares about what the French think? Nah. But the US has it on its most evil list, so it must be BANNED!

What ever happened to the days when the Brits looked at foreigners and laughed at their odd laws? Now we want a stupid law too to be just like them.

Re: No room to swing a Khat

PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 6:43 pm
by An Absent Humphrey
I think Khat should be banned.
I'm all for it.
The last few times I had it at the local Indian restaurant it's given me the shits.

Ba-doom chish!
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Re: No room to swing a Khat

PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 7:07 pm
by Bronshtein
He's here all week. Try the veal.

Re: No room to swing a Khat

PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 9:28 pm
by freakinacage
Every time the advisers are ignored, it proves even more that politicians lying fuckwits with their own agenda

Re: No room to swing a Khat

PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 11:41 pm
by mcfonz
When you say 'harm' stein, you are referring to damage to ones body I presume?

Re: No room to swing a Khat

PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 8:16 am
by Bronshtein
mcfonz wrote:When you say 'harm' stein, you are referring to damage to ones body I presume?

McFonz, I know as much about Khat as anyone who reads fairly generally available material knows -never used it, don't know anyone who does -so no anecdotes (and further to our other discussions - I pretend no specialist knowledge nor do I wish to get anyone to agree with any particular viewpoint here :D ).
Anyone who can work a search engine can read basic factual material (and some loopier proponents for and against).
But the experts assembled by the government and tasked with making decisions clearly acknowledge there are some physical mental and social problems associated with (not necessarily causal links) Khat use. But their expert recommendation was that these were insufficient to start the whole fol de rol of criminalisation. May acknowledged this and her main reason for starting a process which will almost inevitably increase its use and abuse was her concern about what foreign governments would think.

I wouldn't recommend taking Khat, but then I wouldn't recommend drinking alcohol or smoking tobacco.

Re: No room to swing a Khat

PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 8:41 am
by mcfonz
May is useless. I sometimes wonder if she just enjoys being able to wield a weapon of power?

Maybe they should give Boris a chance in that role? Would at least be worth a few giggles.

Re: No room to swing a Khat

PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 9:09 am
by freakinacage
Bronshtein wrote:
I wouldn't recommend taking Khat, but then I wouldn't recommend drinking alcohol or smoking tobacco.

This is it. It does no more damage than alcohol or tobacco, in fact, it seems it does less. Each of those cause significant harm to society (through misuse and through physical harm)

Re: No room to swing a Khat

PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 9:31 am
by Bronshtein
freakinacage wrote:
Bronshtein wrote:
I wouldn't recommend taking Khat, but then I wouldn't recommend drinking alcohol or smoking tobacco.

This is it. It does no more damage than alcohol or tobacco, in fact, it seems it does less. Each of those cause significant harm to society (through misuse and through physical harm)


Yeah, totally agree.
I do wonder if it is also a comfortable target because of the ethnic/religious background of the majority users in the UK? People forget/don't know there's been a Somali community in Cardiff (and other ports) for well over a hundred years and this isn't a new 'threat', in fact it isn't a threat at all.

Re: No room to swing a Khat

PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 10:36 am
by aliensurfer
Bronshtein wrote:
freakinacage wrote:
Bronshtein wrote:
I wouldn't recommend taking Khat, but then I wouldn't recommend drinking alcohol or smoking tobacco.

This is it. It does no more damage than alcohol or tobacco, in fact, it seems it does less. Each of those cause significant harm to society (through misuse and through physical harm)


Yeah, totally agree.
People forget/don't know there's been a Somali community in Cardiff (and other ports) for well over a hundred years


aye Wales is well know for it's piracy :wink: