Frothers Unite! UK

Bumblebee wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No.
The blame rests with people who turn a blind eye to reality or turn the blame around onto someone else and give a pass to certain parts of American culture because of race.
People like you.
When it's black gun violence, it's overlooked.
When it's white gun violence, it's a world-wide terror event.

I'm not racist but..."

No. That's not what I'm saying.
Though it easier to cop out and go the racist route and assume racism on someone else's part because of their assumed race, especially when you are not the racist.

"I'm not racist but..."

Duff wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No. That's not what I'm saying.

It seems pretty clear that that is exactly what you are saying. Maybe you could open our eyes and actually state what the point of your post is?

nate the great wrote:I was going to stay out of this bullshit but after talking to my kids yesterday and dealing with a very upset 7 year old last night I can't.

I live in central Pennsylvania. I own a rifle for hunting deer. On the first day of rifle deer hunting season in Pennsylvania there are more armed people out and about than in the US armed forces. ( i know this was true in 2000, it may not apply today) I did not grow up with guns. I grew up in the UK. The first 5 years in Brechin Scotland, the next 14 years in Harrogate N. Yorkshire. I ended up in Pa and learned to hunt with a coworker. I enjoy it and have shot deer and black bear in northern pa for the last 17 years.

Tomorrow if they banned guns and I even had to hand over my rifle I would. I don't believe any of this militia crap! My family spent the weekend with friends who all have elementary aged kids. and we actually argued/ discussed this a lot. The gut that argued the most about right to bear arms and militia's doesn't actually own any weapons. So go figure!
We did actually all agree on 4 things:
1. The argument of if everyone is armed we could have stopped things like Friday happening is completely fucking stupid.
2. American society is obsessed with violence and guns. Just look at the movies, tv shows, video games. No i don't wanna ban BF3 but seriously does little Johnny age 8 need to play it 8 hours a day!
3. The us fails on mental health issues related to prevention. Jeez maybe its to do with health care for profit.
4. Something needs to change regarding our current gun laws, and soon.

Thats just my 2 cents feel free to tell me to go fuck myself.

Condottiero wrote:It's none of one's business what one posts, beyond what's in the message.

Condottiero wrote: If I choose to list references and or cut and paste, who gives a fuck? If you don't agree with the message, then say so and back it up if called out, but don't whine about the style.

Condottiero wrote:What's this obsession over my sig? I don't go around obsessing over other posters sigs, so I'd expect the same courtesy.

Condottiero wrote:

DemonEtrigan wrote:

Condottiero wrote:

kawasaki v2.3 wrote:Sorry I'm late, I've been busy.

I don't have anything to add, but can I call Condom a cunt? Because he's a cunt.

Based on what?

based on the fact that you are a cunt?....come on Condi, this is one of the clearest, fact based arguments in this entire thread. It's not hard to understand the underlying basis of it at all.

The underlying basis of it all is that there are plenty of ignorant cunts on this thread who are only interested in demeaning hyperbole about Americans. It might come as a shock to someone like you, but being called a baby killer isn't going to result in a polite response...

Woodwose wrote:Guff...Guff...Guff...

Condottiero wrote:

Woodwose wrote:Guff...Guff...Guff...

I had meant something long-winded as usual, but you'll just end up being your vapid self and expect a rise from me...

So Happy Hogmanay and Lang may yer lum reek!

Veridical Driver June 2, 2011 at 1:17 pm

The real question, is the violent crime rate for non-marginalized U.S. citizens significantly different than other countries?

Sure, the U.K. has a low rate of homicides ? the negative effects of centuries of racism, imperialism, and slavery, have been externalized to Zimbabwe, South Africa, India, etc? In the U.S., because of its historically unique pattern of contiguous expansion (as opposed to acquiring far-flung overseas colonies), and of importing slaves (as opposed to enslaving people in said far-flung overseas colonies), the U.S. internalized the negative effects that Europeans where able to externalize via decolonization.

The murder rate for your average middle class person is extremely low. U.S. crime rates are concentrated in ultra-violent ?Ghettos?, composed of the victims and decedents of victims of slavery, segregation, and racism. What the United States has is essentially small violent third-world pockets that exist in an otherwise low-crime first-world country.