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Re: The Sad Cunts with No Life Thread

Post by Clementia » Sun Dec 08, 2019 11:51 pm

Condi wrote:wah! wah! wah!

Triggered again!

You're all mean to me waaaaaaah!


Not all. I only feel a great deal of pity.

Re: The Sad Cunts with No Life Thread

Post by Condi » Sun Dec 08, 2019 11:48 pm

wah! wah! wah!

Triggered again!

You're all mean to me waaaaaaah!

Re: The Sad Cunts with No Life Thread

Post by kyotebue2 » Sun Dec 08, 2019 9:46 pm

The Nazi Page is back to being Tango01 Nazi Page.

Re: The Sad Cunts with No Life Thread

Post by General Paranoia » Sun Dec 08, 2019 9:35 pm

Macunaima nli xx wrote:Condi, could there be any possible rational reason why someone would be anti-American? Or do you see it as a case of you guys being unjustly picked upon by an ungrateful world?


Britain framed them and ran away!

Re: The Sad Cunts with No Life Thread

Post by Macunaima nli xx » Sun Dec 08, 2019 9:22 pm

Condi, could there be any possible rational reason why someone would be anti-American? Or do you see it as a case of you guys being unjustly picked upon by an ungrateful world?

Re: The Sad Cunts with No Life Thread

Post by General Paranoia » Sun Dec 08, 2019 9:01 pm

Picador wrote:There he goes again :rofl:


Didn't bother to read it!
He's a bit of a one trick pony!

Re: The Sad Cunts with No Life Thread

Post by Picador » Sun Dec 08, 2019 8:51 pm

There he goes again :rofl:

Re: The Sad Cunts with No Life Thread

Post by Condottiero » Sun Dec 08, 2019 8:39 pm

Picador wrote:
General Paranoia wrote:
Condottiero wrote:waaaah! But Britain!

And there he's goes again :lol:


It's fairly obvious that Condi is anti-British, but it seems he's trying to blame us for America's entry into a war they lost.

That's a bit of a stretch even by his low standards :lol:

The usual response from someone accusing someone of being anti-American... :roll:

Just goes to show how much you lot are hypocrites with low standards!

How is this for being anti-British?

1953 Iran Coup: New U.S. Documents Confirm British Approached U.S. in Late 1952 About Ousting Mosaddeq
The British Foreign Office approached the Truman administration on more than one occasion in late 1952 to propose a coup to overthrow Iranian Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddeq, according to freshly declassified State Department documents. Posted today for the first time, two previously Top-Secret memoranda from senior officials at State refer to a series of communications and meetings beginning in October 1952 in which British officials tried to win U.S. approval of Mosaddeq’s ouster.

The British government has steadfastly refused to release any materials that directly refer to its role in the operation that eventually took place in August 1953, and has consistently pressed the United States not to reveal any substantiation from American files. In fact, evidence has existed for years that the British were intimately involved in promoting and then planning the overthrow of Mosaddeq. The most compelling sources include a leaked CIA after-action report written in 1954 and memoir accounts by various coup participants.

The documents are of great interest on several levels. As indicated, they are the first officially released confirmation of Britain’s expressed aim in late 1952 to persuade Washington to help oust Mosaddeq. They also provide insights into how the British conceived of the political scene inside Iran and why a coup was called for, in their view. At the early December meeting, Sir Christopher Steel laid out what the memo describes as the "only three possible lines which events in Iran might take." In essence, Steel commented, Mossadeq could either stay in power and take action against the Communist (or Tudeh) party, or he would leave office and be replaced by someone who would do so, or there would be no change and "the Communists would gradually take control." Steel declared that the Iranian prime minister was highly unlikely to act firmly against the Communists but he professed to be uncommitted for the time being toward actually mounting a coup. His only purpose at the meeting with Mathews and Nitze, he claimed, was to propose the idea and suggest that the British and American governments should seriously consider taking action along those lines.

This scrupulously mild approach reflects another interesting aspect of the memoranda – what they reveal about British tactics in their appeal to the Americans. Scholars of the coup generally agree that London’s overriding objective in the Iran crisis was to restore their stake in Iran's petroleum industry by virtually any available means, including military action. But ever since Mosaddeq nationalized the industry in Spring 1951 (then expelled British diplomats and intelligence officials from the country the following October – incidentally, not long after the first British-U.S. coup discussions mentioned in the Byroade memo), the Truman administration had balked at Britain’s persistent prodding for radical action – beyond the substantial step Washington had already taken of supporting an economic boycott against Iran. President Harry Truman and Secretary of State Dean Acheson repeatedly insisted that their priority was to keep the Soviet Union and its Communist allies in Iran from gaining any advantage from the crisis. For Truman and Acheson, overtly protecting Britain's colonial interests was a non-starter because they believed it would play into Communist hands.

By late 1952, the British had adapted their methods and, as the new records confirm, couched the subject in terms that would be more appealing to the Americans – not to ask for their help in reclaiming control of Iranian oil but to assist in "combating Communism in Iran." Steel's claim that "the British government had not yet come to any definite conclusions" about how exactly to accomplish the goal seems clearly aimed at not putting off the American side any further, after months of London's steady, militant drumbeat.

The Truman administration never agreed to the idea of Mosaddeq’s overthrow. To the end of his term in January 1953, the president believed that the West’s best hope for an exit strategy to the crisis lay in working with the Iranian prime minister, not against him. The November 26 memo, in fact, importantly confirms that the administration was still planning to side with Mosaddeq’s government against what they evidently saw as Britain’s lack of cooperation in coming to an equitable oil agreement. “One element which must be taken into consideration in making our decision" about a coup, wrote Byroade, "is that we are presently thinking of unilateral action to assist the Mosadeq Government in the event that the British do not agree to an oil settlement acceptable to Mosadeq." Presumably struggling to suppress any expression of irony, Byroade continued, "It would be virtually impossible to proceed with plans to overthrow Dr. Mosadeq while at the same time giving him open assistance."

Byroade went on to assess Britain’s motives in revisiting their proposal and to predict the ramifications of each possible U.S. response. "[I]t is not inconceivable that one reason for the British suggestion is a desire to forestall unilateral American assistance to Mosadeq." If the U.S. were to back the overthrow it "might lead them to be less flexible with regard to new oil settlement proposals," whereas "our refusal to consider the new plan for a coup might induce them to make more determined efforts to reach an agreement with Mosadeq."

Re: The Sad Cunts with No Life Thread

Post by General Paranoia » Sun Dec 08, 2019 8:27 pm

Picador wrote:
General Paranoia wrote:
Condottiero wrote:waaaah! But Britain!

And there he's goes again :lol:


It's fairly obvious that Condi is anti-British, but it seems he's trying to blame us for America's entry into a war they lost.

That's a bit of a stretch even by his low standards :lol:


He hasn't really cottoned on to the fact that while he takes everything said about America to heart, the rest of us don't really give that much of a toss what he says about Britain, so it's not much of a wining strategy in his arguments :lol:
We know Britain's shit, Condi, that doesn't change the fact that America is shit too! You really need to find a better argument! 0;)

Re: The Sad Cunts with No Life Thread

Post by Picador » Sun Dec 08, 2019 8:14 pm

General Paranoia wrote:
Condottiero wrote:waaaah! But Britain!

And there he's goes again :lol:


It's fairly obvious that Condi is anti-British, but it seems he's trying to blame us for America's entry into a war they lost.

That's a bit of a stretch even by his low standards :lol:

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