Bronshtein wrote:Certain football fan oligarchs work very closely with him. Others who don't got their comeuppance.
Oligarchs who turned on him, you mean? Such as Mikhail Khodorkovsky, who challenged him (on live television) about the corruption in Russia's fuel industry. Something which Putin was all too aware of but did nothing about because it benefited him. His response was to have Khodorkovsky arrested and put on trial.
Bronshtein wrote:I'm not a Putin cheerleader but he is a product of our stupidity and greed.
No, he's a product of his own stupidity and greed. Western businesses tried to invest in Russia, but again, there was that wall of criminality which met them.
Bronshtein wrote:We gave him a 'chance' on our terms not what was best for Russia.
He was offered what was best for everyone, not for one nation.
Bronshtein wrote:For most Russians he has been a saviour.
Most Russians keep their heads down and mind their own business, if they know what's good for them. That's the nature of a gangster state. The murders of journalists who were critical of Putin can attest to that.
Bronshtein wrote:But then many Brits voted for de Pfeffel.
The key there is that we can also vote him out. Not a luxury the Russians have with someone who's pretty much voted himself president for life. Or do you seriously believe the sham elections he holds are real? He handpicks his own opposition, denying any real contenders, and even indulges in ballot box stuffing to make sure.
[quote="Bronshtein"]Certain football fan oligarchs work very closely with him. Others who don't got their comeuppance.[/quote]
Oligarchs who turned on him, you mean? Such as Mikhail Khodorkovsky, who challenged him (on live television) about the corruption in Russia's fuel industry. Something which Putin was all too aware of but did nothing about because it benefited him. His response was to have Khodorkovsky arrested and put on trial.
[quote="Bronshtein"]I'm not a Putin cheerleader but he is a product of our stupidity and greed.[/quote]
No, he's a product of his own stupidity and greed. Western businesses tried to invest in Russia, but again, there was that wall of criminality which met them.
[quote="Bronshtein"]We gave him a 'chance' on our terms not what was best for Russia.[/quote]
He was offered what was best for everyone, not for one nation.
[quote="Bronshtein"]For most Russians he has been a saviour.[/quote]
Most Russians keep their heads down and mind their own business, if they know what's good for them. That's the nature of a gangster state. The murders of journalists who were critical of Putin can attest to that.
[quote="Bronshtein"]But then many Brits voted for de Pfeffel.[/quote]
The key there is that we can also vote him out. Not a luxury the Russians have with someone who's pretty much voted himself president for life. Or do you seriously believe the sham elections he holds are real? He handpicks his own opposition, denying any real contenders, and even indulges in ballot box stuffing to make sure.
